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Old 10-05-2008, 09:31 AM  
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The flawed logic of Mizzou fans

You say tradition doesn't matter, yet you're so excited about ending your 30-year losing streak in Lincoln.

You say Bo Pelini sucks, yet Gary Pinkel was 9-14 during his first two seasons at Mizzou. Many Mizzou fans wanted him fired.

Something doesn't add up.

I'm not crying in my beer over Nebraska's loss last night. I told you how the game would unfold. I don't feel your pain. You can't get it all back in two years.

Tradition is the reason you're so excited. You want what Nebraska, Texas and Oklahoma have. You are getting a small taste of it. A national title and a Heisman this season would only be one step. You must sustain similar success over decades.

I think Kansas State and Colorado have more tradition than Mizzou. K-State recently won a conference title. Colorado has a national title and a Heisman.

Pelini will need several seasons to turn around the program - just like Gary Pinkel and Mark Mangino needed. Nebraska has no talent on either side of the ball. The defense isn't fast enough to blitz effectively. The offense is overrated, and the play calling sucks. I hate some of their pass plays.

It's a process. Instant gratification wasn't going to happen. You know that from your own experience.

Last year's Huskers gave up and made tons of mistakes. This year's Huskers make mistakes because they're too aggressive. I'll take the aggression.

Callahan never would've apologized to the state like Pelini did last night.

Think about the things I have mentioned here.
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Old 10-05-2008, 07:52 PM   #136
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You say Bo Pelini sucks, yet Gary Pinkel was 9-14 during his first two seasons at Mizzou. Many Mizzou fans wanted him fired.
I agree with much of what you wrote, but this doesn't make any sense. Pinkel's road has NOTHING to do with Pelini's abilities, or lack thereof.

Honestly, in a post about logic, this has to stand out as the worst example.

You know, on second thought, I'm sure this is cathartic for you after last night. Disregard my post, if you wish.
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Old 10-05-2008, 08:07 PM   #137
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Old 10-05-2008, 08:13 PM   #138
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I get home and this thread has over 100 replies. It hit a nerve with somebody. The reason you Mizzou fans don't like it is because you know it's true. I didn't expect you to agree.

As far as Nebraska losing its tradition? Every powerhouse has gone through an extended tough period. Mizzou fans wouldn't know. Tradition can't be lost. For example, just because Notre Dame is losing doesn't mean their tradition is gone. Nebraska and Notre Dame are on similar levels historically.

The traditional powerhouses never leave the spotlight, win or lose.

Mizzou fans don't worry about tradition because it will take them a long time to develop it.
Dude... Notre Dame has won 13 NCs to Nebraska's 5. Also, in regards to tradition, Notre Dame has won at least one NC in 7 different decades, spanning 70 years, with one 15 year gap.

Nebraska's 5 NCs are all within 2 decades, 2 back-to-back in the 70s and 3 in 4 years in the 90s, with a 23 year gap in between.

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Notre Dame gets coverage all the freakin' time, and the only way Nebraska can get on national TV is if they play a good team like Mizzou. Even outside of NBC's contract, Notre Dame doesn't even have to do that.


Nebraska's more like Penn State (well, except that Penn State is good at the moment)... won a lot of games and they've have had their moments. Nothing wrong with that, but Nebraska is no Notre Dame.


Ugh, you made me see Notre Dame in a good light... now I need a shower.
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Old 10-05-2008, 08:24 PM   #139
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I read awhile back that, in order to schedule Notre Dame, you had to guarantee them 25% of the tickets in the stadium. They have a national following you see.
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Old 10-05-2008, 08:25 PM   #140
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Old 10-05-2008, 08:31 PM   #141
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even tho mizzou fans will never admit, this post is very true
I'm a Mizzou fan and agree with the above. Personally I believe that NFL KickAzz teams only last a few (at most, on average) seasons. How many seasons do a College Team KickAzzz?

To be completely honest I've only gotten interested in College the past few years because of MU.

with that being said, (as I was telling my significant other last night) how long will that last?

I hope the MU domination lasts longer than 5 years (in my heart), but (in my mind) I know the likely chance of that is slim.

Just like the NFL teams are really good for 4-5 years. then they suck for a while, then they get good again.

Personally, I'm thankful for MU. REason? It has piqued my interest in college football that has never been there before.
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Old 10-05-2008, 09:31 PM   #142
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Awww Sam, it will be OK, you are just in denial right now. This is the same way Tigers fans talked back in the late 70s when we were half a dozen years into a 30 year spiral downward just like you all are right now.

Don't worry, one day, granted it may be halfway through your lifetime, but Nebraska will get back to winning again. (maybe). But in the meantime, you can find some comfort in the fact that after about 15 years of losing you get used to it and it doesn't hurt quite as bad.
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Old 10-05-2008, 09:48 PM   #143
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Awww Sam, it will be OK, you are just in denial right now. This is the same way Tigers fans talked back in the late 70s when we were half a dozen years into a 30 year spiral downward just like you all are right now.

Don't worry, one day, granted it may be halfway through your lifetime, but Nebraska will get back to winning again. (maybe). But in the meantime, you can find some comfort in the fact that after about 15 years of losing you get used to it and it doesn't hurt quite as bad.
I agree but the NCAA no longer allows schools to "stockpile" players. The scholarship rules took care of that. Those rules were instigated mainly because of programs like Nebraska. It used to be that if Neb. found out KU wanted a kid they would sign him and bury him on the 5th string. Just to keep KU from getting him. The Nubs are pretty pathetic but football is all they have. Have you ever been to Nebraska?
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Old 10-05-2008, 09:54 PM   #144
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Old 10-05-2008, 10:04 PM   #145
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Old 10-05-2008, 11:05 PM   #146
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The traditional powerhouses never leave the spotlight, win or lose..
Would that include Yale, Princeton and Harvard? How about Army like was suggested before.

Traditional Powerhouses come and go....there are only a select few that remain and Nebraska isn't one. The closest to a true traditional powerhouse in the Big 8/12 is Oklahoma.

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Old 10-05-2008, 11:09 PM   #147
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As for me whining? You didn't see what I was saying all week. I thought Mizzou would win big. Nebraska will only win three more games this season.
Your early week predictions don't offset the posturing that you are doing right now...in fact you are looking like the BB player who thought the sun was in his eyes when he dropped the ball on the cloudy day.

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Old 10-06-2008, 07:14 AM   #148
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Old 10-06-2008, 07:18 AM   #149
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My favorite part of this thread is where the bitter KU fan piggybacks on the sour grapes eating Nebraska fan to get a shot in at Mizzou. A thing of beauty.



You started this shit with this lame thread, and you're making yourself look silly throwing wild haymakers with these "tradition" and 'history" references. Nebraska got EMBARRASSED last night, and it wasn't even as close as the 52-17 shows. And we realize you're having a hard time dealing with not only that, but the realization that Nebraska has a long road to walk to get close to the "tradition" you are so holding on to. Have your "tradition"; remeber those teams. Me, I look forward to the tradition that is to come for Missouri.
Good luck after Daniel, Maclin and Coffman leave.

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Old 10-06-2008, 07:20 AM   #150
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When I think of all time embarrassing threads I think of:Russ calling Hel'n's son's school.

I think of:Kotter's fake drunkenness.

Usually a poster only has one real doozy.

I think of An Open Letter To Bill Callahan.

And now this thread. Congrats Samwise, you've broken new ground.
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