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Old 09-03-2008, 09:50 PM  
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Old 12-11-2013, 11:31 AM   #841
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Bah, lotsa good girls fall for bad boys... but i can see some truths in the rest of your points.
Since those are usually the only kind of men I date, and I AM a good...ish...girl, I'd have to see some truth in your post too.

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Old 12-11-2013, 11:32 AM   #842
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Since those are usually the only kind of men I date, and I AM a good...ish...girl, I'd have to see some truth in your post too.

Yay let's go shoot shit and split a hooker.
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Old 12-11-2013, 12:00 PM   #843
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In the sense that you don't see her as a victim, she was a great girl at first who got caught up in the wrong scene, and her husband didn't protect her enough.

And if Gemma had known the truth she wouldn't have done that...
She was not a good girl at all. She came back to Charming to manipulate Jax into killing her stalker boyfriend. Season 1 makes many references to her previous ways and her previous altercations with Gemma specifically. This has been in the cards since the first Episode.
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Old 12-11-2013, 12:01 PM   #844
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Great girls don't chase after thugs. Some men can leave their work at the office but not when murder is on your daily to-do list. For crying out loud that good girl helped them kill stahl. From the moment she used Jax to chase off her stalker, she sold her soul.
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Old 12-11-2013, 12:03 PM   #845
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Old 12-11-2013, 01:09 PM   #846
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She was not a good girl at all. She came back to Charming to manipulate Jax into killing her stalker boyfriend. Season 1 makes many references to her previous ways and her previous altercations with Gemma specifically. This has been in the cards since the first Episode.
I've watched every episode except for the first 4-5 of this season, she didn't come back so Jax could kill the cop, she didn't want anything to do with Jax at first, due to the complicated earlier relationship.
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Old 12-11-2013, 01:26 PM   #847
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When standing at the cross roads of "hey, I just shot a guy," Tara chose to call Jax for clean up rather than the cops for support. She had a restraining order on him. She certainly wasn't going to be arrested. She could have casually hung out with a finger in his stomach hole helping out the dear soul.
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Old 12-11-2013, 01:31 PM   #848
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When standing at the cross roads of "hey, I just shot a guy," Tara chose to call Jax for clean up rather than the cops for support. She had a restraining order on him. She certainly wasn't going to be arrested. She could have casually hung out with a finger in his stomach hole helping out the dear soul.
Hmm, i guess that's true.
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Old 12-11-2013, 01:40 PM   #849
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Old 12-11-2013, 01:41 PM   #850
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Old 12-11-2013, 01:42 PM   #851
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Old 12-11-2013, 01:47 PM   #852
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He's going to save her life. He's going to rationalize it as doing it FOR jax's mental wellbeing. No one but those 2 know they were there.
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Old 12-11-2013, 01:52 PM   #853
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Not to mention that he see's it as a way to save his spot in the club after blabbing to Nero, with Gemma on his side he's safe as long as her secret doesn't get out.
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Old 12-11-2013, 02:32 PM   #854
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I've watched every episode except for the first 4-5 of this season, she didn't come back so Jax could kill the cop, she didn't want anything to do with Jax at first, due to the complicated earlier relationship.
If she didn't want anything to do with him, she wouldn't have inserted herself into his son's medical case. She was manipulating him from the very start, and while it may be an mild exaggeration on my part to say she overtly wanted him to kill the guy, she definitely came back to get him to intervene. I just think with her knowledge of his life, she could understand clearly what that would mean.

She has been using Gemma's tactics to take Gemma's place all along. She even tells Gemma something like "I'm not the same girl anymore. I've learned some stuff." The visual image of her at Jax's side at the head of the table when he took the gavel was a direct illustration of that. She just got some stuff wrong and lost control. I don't doubt she does love him, but her acceptance of some of his violence, even as recently as Clay, while rejecting some other incidents speaks to a lack of solid ground to her victim-hood as well.

I also thought the show did a great job with the kitchen scene, and Sutter talked about it afterwards as needing to look very different to any of the MC violence. The organic nature of the sink and nearby fork was totally appropriate when coming to the violent conclusion of an arc about two people who have been using everyone else to hurt each other, but who finally have to grapple with each other all alone.
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If she didn't want anything to do with him, she wouldn't have inserted herself into his son's medical case. She was manipulating him from the very start, and while it may be an mild exaggeration on my part to say she overtly wanted him to kill the guy, she definitely came back to get him to intervene. I just think with her knowledge of his life, she could understand clearly what that would mean.

She has been using Gemma's tactics to take Gemma's place all along. She even tells Gemma something like "I'm not the same girl anymore. I've learned some stuff." The visual image of her at Jax's side at the head of the table when he took the gavel was a direct illustration of that. She just got some stuff wrong and lost control. I don't doubt she does love him, but her acceptance of some of his violence, even as recently as Clay, while rejecting some other incidents speaks to a lack of solid ground to her victim-hood as well.

I also thought the show did a great job with the kitchen scene, and Sutter talked about it afterwards as needing to look very different to any of the MC violence. The organic nature of the sink and nearby fork was totally appropriate when coming to the violent conclusion of an arc about two people who have been using everyone else to hurt each other, but who finally have to grapple with each other all alone.
Heh, fair enough, it takes a pretty damn good show to get us folks all lathered up like this.

Yeah, the afterword show was interesting, it really helped shed some light on their motivations.
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