NFL Draft Pick #33. Round 2. What to do? - Page 4

teedubya · 11-29-2012, 10:11 PM

I'm thinking we are going to get some first round talent slip to us at this pick.

Which position would you draft in the 2nd? Assuming that we picked up a QB in round one? Receiver?

Cephalic Trauma · 11-29-2012, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Alex Smith is gonna fall right on his face without Harbaugh.

True

KCrockaholic · 11-29-2012, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

for Christ's sake if we take Geno at #1 and Murray is there at #34 and we take him to sign me the **** up...what's the worst that happens? Geno explodes and we turn around and trade Murray in 3 years for a good pick?

I'm not opposed to doing whatever necessary to trade back into the back half of the 1st and taking Murray and taking Geno 1st. One of those two will be a star. And potentially both. Plus it will build immediate competition. Geno wouldn't get a free pass as #1 QB right away.

DTLB58 · 11-29-2012, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

If we had an offense that could consistently score 20 points we could have contended for championships.

Yea in the 90's. Today, we better be able to score 30+ in the playoffs to beat NE, Balt, Houston or Denver and the Pack, Falcons or G-Men in the SB.

KCrockaholic · 11-29-2012, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Austin is a very similar player to Dexter McCluster...except he has much better long speed.

I bet their shuttle/bench and other measurable at the combine are comparable.

People clown on Dexters 40 time, but not too often praise him for his elite shuttle time (4.06) and bench (for a man his size, 22 reps is pretty damn good)

Ball handling, vision with the ball, hands, and his muscle mass all trumps Dexter. If anything, people will be calling Dexter a poor mans Tavon Austin in about 2 years.

Hootie · 11-29-2012, 10:53 PM

take 3 god damn QB's next draft for all I care

Sorter · 11-29-2012, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

Ball handling, vision with the ball, hands, and his muscle mass all trumps Dexter. If anything, people will be calling Dexter a poor mans Tavon Austin in about 2 years.

****, they'll be saying that when Austin steps on the field.

Hootie · 11-29-2012, 10:56 PM

I still don't think we have a necessary need at WR unless Bowe is gone...these receivers don't have a god damn shot in the world with the play we have at QB.

Look at Indy last year with Painter and shit at QB...all those guys sucked and Reggie Wayne clearly "lost a step."

Look at what guys like Donny Avery and T.Y. Hilton are doing with Luck (and Wayne is back to full beast mode)...

I think Dexter and Baldwin still have a shot to be good, sorry for alerting Clay to this thread so he can muddy it up.

Bump · 11-29-2012, 10:56 PM

I'm down to take that WVU WR at #2 if he's there. Geno will like some continuity for sure. What's his name? Austin or something?

O.city · 11-29-2012, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DTLB58

Yea in the 90's. Today, we better be able to score 30+ in the playoffs to beat NE, Balt, Houston or Denver and the Pack, Falcons or G-Men in the SB.

Not really.

If you can put up 24 plus in the playoffs, you have a damn great shot at winning.

**BossChief** · 11-29-2012, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

I haven't paid a ton of attention to your opinion on Smith, but how certain are you in him being a great, franchise QB?

There are no certainties, but the kid has every single tool you look for and if he is coached properly, he WILL be a premier QB in the league. Top ten. Once the old guard (Brady, Manning, Brees, ETC) hangs em up he will rise up into the top five.

Tools that are elite:

poise
vision
accuracy
elusiveness in the pocket
anticipation
ball placement
intelligence

Tools that are very good:

arm strength
mobility
leadership
preparation
size
command of multiple offenses

With all of the guys tools, I simply don't see a way he busts in the NFL and that he has a high chance of being an elite quarterback.

I think the guy has taken the heat for opposing teams figuring out a West Virginia team that runs a simplified offense that has a weak offensive line and defense and that on a team like ours he can be a huge success.

KCrockaholic · 11-29-2012, 11:01 PM

While I'm on the Austin subject, he registered 11 catches, and 187 receiving yards against LSU in 2011. And what he did against OU as a runningback was just disgusting.

KCrockaholic · 11-29-2012, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

There are no certainties, but the kid has every single tool you look for and if he is coached properly, he WILL be a premier QB in the league. Top ten. Once the old guard (Brady, Manning, Brees, ETC) hangs em up he will rise up into the top five.

Tools that are elite:

poise
vision
accuracy
elusiveness in the pocket
anticipation
ball placement
intelligence

Tools that are very good:

arm strength
mobility
leadership
preparation
size
command of multiple offenses

With all of the guys tools, I simply don't see a way he busts in the NFL and that he has a high chance of being an elite quarterback.

I think the guy has taken the heat for opposing teams figuring out a West Virginia team that runs a simplified offense that has a weak offensive line and defense and that on a team like ours he can be a huge success.

I don't necessarily disagree with any of this either. I do think he has a habit of holding onto the ball for too long. I'd put that one in the negative category. So in your opinion why are guys like Kiper, and McShay talking about how Geno isn't even top 20 in this class.

Oh, I'd downgrade the accuracy slightly. He has a tendency to miss high when he misses. He over throws a lot of deep balls.

Saccopoo · 11-29-2012, 11:06 PM

David Amerson, CB; North Carolina State

Guy was the #1 CB going into this year, but he had a couple of rough games to start out the season.

He's big (6'2", 195 lbs.), got great instincts and would be an excellent fit opposite Flowers.

No brainer if he's there at the top of the second.

O.city · 11-29-2012, 11:08 PM

Sac, would you take Xavier Rhodes if he was there in teh 2nd?

Saccopoo · 11-29-2012, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

While I'm on the Austin subject, he registered 11 catches, and 187 receiving yards against LSU in 2011. And what he did against OU as a runningback was just disgusting.

What's funny is that Austin is generating a ton of hype, but people seem to forget that they guy with all the touchdowns on WVU's offense is the other receiver, Stedman Bailey. He's got 21 TD's on the season (which is completely sick), 1,342 yards and a 14.1 ypc.

Personally, I think that these guys are putting up crazy numbers because they've got a freaking stud at QB getting them the ball.

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11-29-2012, 10:56 PM	#52
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I still don't think we have a necessary need at WR unless Bowe is gone...these receivers don't have a god damn shot in the world with the play we have at QB. Look at Indy last year with Painter and shit at QB...all those guys sucked and Reggie Wayne clearly "lost a step." Look at what guys like Donny Avery and T.Y. Hilton are doing with Luck (and Wayne is back to full beast mode)... I think Dexter and Baldwin still have a shot to be good, sorry for alerting Clay to this thread so he can muddy it up.
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11-29-2012, 10:56 PM	#53
Bump YOU take YOUR seat Join Date: Nov 2007 Casino cash: $2285105	I'm down to take that WVU WR at #2 if he's there. Geno will like some continuity for sure. What's his name? Austin or something? __________________
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KCrockaholic Sarcasm Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Olathe Casino cash: $4802900	While I'm on the Austin subject, he registered 11 catches, and 187 receiving yards against LSU in 2011. And what he did against OU as a runningback was just disgusting.
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11-29-2012, 11:06 PM	#58
Saccopoo Kindness in words... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Zion Casino cash: $10025483	David Amerson, CB; North Carolina State Guy was the #1 CB going into this year, but he had a couple of rough games to start out the season. He's big (6'2", 195 lbs.), got great instincts and would be an excellent fit opposite Flowers. No brainer if he's there at the top of the second.
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11-29-2012, 11:08 PM	#59
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2794064	Sac, would you take Xavier Rhodes if he was there in teh 2nd?
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