Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 242

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

**KcMizzou** · 05-05-2013, 04:20 PM

Anyone know if tonight's game will be televised?

**Old Dog** · 05-05-2013, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou

Anyone know if tonight's game will be televised?

there is no game tonight....

**KcMizzou** · 05-05-2013, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Dog

there is no game tonight....

Ah, I thought they had a double header to make up the rain out.

**Saul Good** · 05-05-2013, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou

Anyone know if tonight's game will be televised?

The game is on replay in a few minutes...

**Old Dog** · 05-05-2013, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou

Ah, I thought they had a double header to make up the rain out.

tomorrow @ 1:10, but it will be on the tube

ChiliConCarnage · 05-05-2013, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Nobody that knew anything about our minor league talent thought that Moore was a buffoon.

Edit: Also, Hosmer has been blistering the ball. Bad luck, right now.

What minor league talent has produced yet? Bullpen guys sure but that's not what a cash limited team needs to develop to win.

As far as Hosmer, you can't get robbed if you hit it out of the park. He has a worse slug percentage than last year or even Chris Getz or Frenchy this year coming into the game. Hopefully he gets it going but bad BABIP type luck or not he's awful at this point.

**Old Dog** · 05-05-2013, 04:29 PM

Think I'm gonna go ahead and finally go to another game this weekend....Friday seems like a good one

**Saul Good** · 05-05-2013, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda

In due time we as well will get to face the vaunted Astros. Hopefully we don't fail to take advantage of that free gift.

They are no hitting the Astros at the moment.

tredadda · 05-05-2013, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

They are no hitting the Astros at the moment.

Verlander is and he is considered one of if not the best pitcher in baseball.

**Saul Good** · 05-05-2013, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda

Verlander is and he is considered one of if not the best pitcher in baseball.

Jinxed

siberian khatru · 05-05-2013, 07:41 PM

Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN 5m
If PHI doesn't turn it around, Chase Utley could be one of the most interesting players on the trade market. KC, BAL great possible fits.

Hootie · 05-05-2013, 07:43 PM

Chase Utley in the 3 hole with Shields/Santana/Guthrie and Wade Davis back in the bullpen could be enough for us to do some SERIOUS damage. Especially if Santana keeps flashing ACE stuff like he has been.

**chefsos** · 05-05-2013, 07:55 PM

Philly's not going to turn it around, so we might as well start fighting over Utley right now.

C3HIEF3S · 05-05-2013, 08:06 PM

So what would you guys give up for a half year of Utley?

**Shogun** · 05-05-2013, 08:11 PM

a couple mid level prospects

12-11-2012, 09:59 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1840308	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-15-2013 at 10:01 AM..
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