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Many millions if not billions "think" they "know" Jesus but in reality only "know about" Jesus never truly making Him their personal Lord and Savior while they still live for "self" and buying the lie from Hell that they are good enough and will be their own lawyer on judgement day and then God will just let them in on their own merits apart from Jesus because they think they are good enough. Nothing could be further from the truth. In Romans 3:23-24 it say's 23 For everyone has sinned; we all fall short of God’s glorious standard. 24 Yet God, in his grace, freely makes us right in his sight. He did this through Christ Jesus when he freed us from the penalty for our sins. Either God sees Jesus truly living in your heart at the time of death thus making you perfect and holy in the eyes of God or it is hello to Hades. Jesus was and is the only perfect holy sacrifice that God will accept. God will not accept you apart from Christ on your own merits because God cannot be in the presence of sin and when you present yourself apart from Christ you are sin that he must reject. However, when your heart is sincere and truly repentant and you have realized your need for a Savior making Jesus Lord of your life asking Him to come into your life then it is Jesus that God will see living in your heart that will make you acceptable to the Father. Many, many people sit in church pews of every denomination of Christianity who "think" they "know" Jesus and are saved and "think" they are genuine Christians but in reality are really not. Many can live a life that mimicks Christian values and ideals but doesn't mean they have given their heart thus their life over to Jesus. Here are some sobering words from Jesus(who is God) in Matt 7:13-14- telling us that the majority of people will end up in Hell. Not my words but Jesus's words. Pay particular attention to the bold. Matt 7:13-14 -The Narrow and Wide Gates 13 “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it. Suicide is forgivable. Let's just hope that Chris and Chester really "knew Jesus" as opposed to just "knew about" Jesus. And what about you ? You relying on your own merits "thinking" you are a good enough dude "thinking" you really "know Jesus" but in reality only really "know about" Jesus?
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07-20-2017, 07:38 PM | #108 |
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I think it depends CS.
There's a difference between someone that's had depression for many years vs. someone who snaps one day and offs themself. I think the former would be a rejection of salvation |
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07-20-2017, 07:41 PM | #109 | |
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Salvation knows no specific rules. There are far too many variables involved.. and NO higher power would overlook a single one of them, when determining the future of a single soul.
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Sandy you are correct that there are many variables as God say's in I Samuel 16:6 - 7 But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not consider his appearance or his height, for I have rejected him. The Lord does not look at the things people look at. People look at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart.” But there again the Lord is looking at the heart to see who lives and rules in the heart of man.Is it man ruling himself or has he allowed Jesus to rule his heart ? |
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and this alone will be the part I point to, CS.
"but the Lord looks at the heart.” So hand me a thought to a hypothetical. Man named Joe. Lives a boring, considerate life. Never focused a bit on religion or matters out of sight. Cares about things around him. Wife of 40 years... two children.. all slaughtered to death by an intruding killer. Joe has no one and nothing else in this world that matters anywhere near what they did. Joe gets really sad, and puts a bullet through the roof of his mouth a week later. You going to tell me or anyone else that a higher power won't take him in?
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07-20-2017, 08:22 PM | #114 | |
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not in the mood for interpretation... spit it out. Say. what. you. mean.
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did this really have to devolve into a religious thread?
RIP Chester....not even a fan but it's sad to see some assholes who didn't even know you calling you selfish and saying you are going to hell... |
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The world is less without that man present. RIP.
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Yet you suggest to me that he is shit outta luck? I'll wait for clarification, before I tell you to seriously give far more thought to your position on this.
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