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How has God wired you spiritually? What is your spiritual gift/gifts?

When a person comes to Christ, that person receives a spiritual gift and most receive several spiritual gifts through the Power of the Holy Spirit that now inhabits their soul. For a list of those spiritual gifts you can read I Cor. 12 and Romans 12. However, using your spiritual gifts is very much like physical exercise. You need to practice and serve at all times in your gifts so that the Holy Spirit can build up your soul spiritually so that you may be bold in living and serving in your faith. But if you avoid serving with the spiritual gifts Jesus gave you then you will spiritually atrophy. You won't lose your gifts but you will be ineffective in your faith. Paul encourages Timothy to fan into flame the power of the Holy Spirit to use his spiritual gifts and not to be timid. Because the more you use your gifts the more the Power of God is revealed through YOU !!!

Here is the 5th talk by Pastor Jeff in the series called "The Power of the Gospel" and this talk is labeled "Powering Forward"!! Pastor Jeff a talented speaker and teacher of the Bible in this video sermon/audio only if you choose gives much encouragement, joy and hope to both Christians and unbelievers. To discover and develop their spiritual gifts through the person of Jesus Christ. For those of you who have not heard him speak he is truly one of the most authentic, genuine, straight from the heart, pull no punches, tells it like it is, gifted speaker of the Gospel that I have heard in a long time and have met. He is the 'real deal' and your time will not be wasted listening to him.

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http://www.harvestdenver.org/sermons/power-forward-5816
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Old 03-18-2017, 10:17 PM   #76
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Do you think God only matters to people who believe in His existence?
Doubt you find an atheist in a foxhole or on a plane that is about ready to crash. God is important to everyone at that point but the real question becomes at that point do they "know" Jesus or just "know about" Jesus and cry out for a mulligan in their own strength ?? The mulligan was given to all mankind in the crucifixion of Christ on the cross.

did you do your homework yet ???
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Old 03-18-2017, 10:24 PM   #77
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Jesus is calling you with His Holy Spirit Listo !! And you know it !!
Right now a 24 pack of Coronitas is calling me and I'm answering that call. Finally got a day off tomorrow.
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Old 03-18-2017, 10:25 PM   #78
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Doubt you find an atheist in a foxhole or on a plane that is about ready to crash. God is important to everyone at that point but the real question becomes at that point do they "know" Jesus or just "know about" Jesus and cry out for a mulligan in their own strength ?? The mulligan was given to all mankind in the crucifixion of Christ on the cross.

did you do your homework yet ???
Well, I read your post -- that's got to count for some credit.
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Old 03-18-2017, 10:27 PM   #79
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Right now a 24 pack of Coronitas is calling me and I'm answering that call. Finally got a day off tomorrow.
Well maybe you will take up an offer to have a beer with Jesus then, huh? He would have a beer with you I assure you.
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Old 03-18-2017, 10:32 PM   #80
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So our conscious comes from non-created physical matter that has always existed that somehow evolved from "Goo to You via the Zoo". Takes more faith to believe in "naturalism" than a Creator my friend.
I have more faith in naturalism than creationism for the simple fact that there is is more evidence for naturalism than creationism. Unless your version of the bible includes Homo Neanderthalis and Homo Denisovan now.

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1For the choir director. A Psalm of David. The fool has said in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, they have committed abominable deeds; There is no one who does good.
Psalms is a book of Jewish poems and songs. Of course the whole old testament is a history of the Jewish people where they invoke mysticism to explain away why they break the commandments that God set down.

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"If" huh? You prove my point about that nagging question. But let's get to the real crux which is your bitter heart when you say, "completely unworthy of worship" or are those your favorite atheists words you read that you parrot?
My own opinion but God doesn't exist so the whole point is really moot. Still God comes off as a complete sociopath in the Old Testament.

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You now have just set a moral standard because IF as you say my entity exists and He is not worthy of worship, why in the world would you care as a ''naturalist' and say something like that to begin with if all we are is a carbon atom? As an atheist you are hypocritical if you acknowledge "good and evil" because now you have just set a moral absolute standard when in reality to an atheist there are no moral absolutes because "morality must always be relative to an atheist" When morality becomes "relative" essentially there is 'no morality' is my point.
I would say that my morality that comes from my own philosophy is much less relative than your ideology that comes from a book and others. If you willingly violate the rights of others than you committed an immoral act. There is no caveat in regards to these were pagans, non-believers, God/The Pope/Religious Leader X told me so.

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"Knowledge without absolute rules is very very dangerous". And there is the rub, whose rules? Man's rules? Or a transcendent perfect creator's rules? If you say Man's rules then those rules are like moving the goal posts at all times for moral convenience. But if you say a "transcendent perfect creator's rules" then there are "absolutes" and why man cannot govern himself and why even our Founding Fathers' knew this and the brilliance of using Biblical principles in crafting the Bill of Rights, Constitution, Legal system......"checks and balances" because there is a God and He created the perfect morality in Jesus and we all will be held accountable to Him in the end.
The actual frame of the Constitution owes much much more to mostly atheist Enlightenment thinkers than to the bible. That includes making sure that the Church is relatively powerless in actual governance. Remember, the Enlightenment was a response to the incredibly bloody 1600s in which every major country in Europe had religious strife.

One could actually argue that the first recorded genocide was the Christians killing off the Cathars in the Albigensian Crusade. Religions, despite the universal taboo against killing, tend to wage bloody war on each other whenever they are in the same geographic area. The only really exception is Shinto and Buddhism in Japan.

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Whether you realize it or not you atheists steal from God when it is convenient.
Considering that religion pretty much stole from well, the mores that make society work. Society doesn't really work when the members kill, steal, and assault each other on a regular basis. Religion just codified it and threw in some don't make fun of our deity and some graft for the priestly class.
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Old 03-18-2017, 10:33 PM   #81
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Well maybe you will take up an offer to have a beer with Jesus then, huh? He would have a beer with you I assure you.
If I down enough of these beers I may see Jesus. Or Jose, or Miguel, I can't remember my neighbor's name. They play some great mariachi music on the weekends sometimes. Nice little garden party going on over there.
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Old 03-18-2017, 10:35 PM   #82
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Well, I read your post -- that's got to count for some credit.
I guess I will do your homework for you then. Nope. You don't get a 2nd chance once you die. You either accept Christ and live for Him here on earth in this existence while you still breath or if you don't you will.......

First, for the believer in Jesus Christ, the Bible tells us that after death believers’ souls/spirits are taken to heaven, because their sins are forgiven by having received Christ as Savior (John 3:16, 18, 36). For believers, death is to be “away from the body and at home with the Lord” (2 Corinthians 5:6-8; Philippians 1:23). However, passages such as 1 Corinthians 15:50-54 and 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17 describe believers being resurrected and given glorified bodies. If believers go to be with Christ immediately after death, what is the purpose of this resurrection? It seems that while the souls/spirits of believers go to be with Christ immediately after death, the physical body remains in the grave “sleeping.” At the resurrection of believers, the physical body is resurrected, glorified, and then reunited with the soul/spirit. This reunited and glorified body-soul-spirit will be the possession of believers for eternity in the new heavens and new earth (Revelation 21-22).

Second, for those who do not receive Jesus Christ as Savior, death means everlasting punishment. However, similar to the destiny of believers, unbelievers also seem to be sent immediately to a temporary holding place, to await their final resurrection, judgment, and eternal destiny. Luke 16:22-23 describes a rich man being tormented immediately after death. Revelation 20:11-15 describes all the unbelieving dead being resurrected, judged at the great white throne, and then being cast into the lake of fire. Unbelievers, then, are not sent to hell (the lake of fire) immediately after death, but rather are in a temporary realm of judgment and condemnation. However, even though unbelievers are not instantly sent to the lake of fire, their immediate fate after death is not a pleasant one. The rich man cried out, “I am in agony in this fire” (Luke 16:24).

Therefore, after death, a person resides in a “temporary” heaven or hell. After this temporary realm, at the final resurrection, a person’s eternal destiny will not change. The precise “location” of that eternal destiny is what changes. Believers will ultimately be granted entrance into the new heavens and new earth (Revelation 21:1). Unbelievers will ultimately be sent to the lake of fire (Revelation 20:11-15). These are the final, eternal destinations of all people—based entirely on whether or not they had trusted Jesus Christ alone for salvation (Matthew 25:46; John 3:36).
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If I down enough of these beers I may see Jesus. Or Jose, or Miguel, I can't remember my neighbor's name. They play some great mariachi music on the weekends sometimes. Nice little garden party going on over there.
Do you live for the buzz ?
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So lame.. Enters thread and makes a tired and baseless excuse.
This isn't the bible study forum.

Just seeing this thread made me want to shit on it.

Mission accomplished.
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Do you live for the buzz ?
I wouldn't say I live for it. I'd say I self-medicate with alcohol.
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I have no respect for any faith on this planet, nor any desire to shove it down my throat.

Therefore, your thread earns none in kind.
You are the only conservative atheist I have ever known.


Do you know how truly ****ed up combining those can be?
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Mission accomplished.
not really.. More like a minor speed bump...
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I guess I will do your homework for you then. Nope. You don't get a 2nd chance once you die. You either accept Christ and live for Him here on earth in this existence while you still breath or if you don't you will.......
And what of those who never had the opportunity to know of Jesus Christ?
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This isn't the bible study forum.

Just seeing this thread made me want to shit on it.

Mission accomplished.
The Holy Spirit has away of showing and convicting your heart that it is manure(or sh** as you say) doesn't it ?
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This isn't the bible study forum.

Just seeing this thread made me want to shit on it.

Mission accomplished.
Washington D.C and The Holy land. It's a politics and religion sub-forum. It's mostly politics lately, but the POTUS election is like the Super Bowl of politics so that understandable. There have been quite a few good religious threads in here over the years.
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