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Old 03-17-2017, 07:55 PM  
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How has God wired you spiritually? What is your spiritual gift/gifts?
When a person comes to Christ, that person receives a spiritual gift and most receive several spiritual gifts through the Power of the Holy Spirit that now inhabits their soul. For a list of those spiritual gifts you can read I Cor. 12 and Romans 12. However, using your spiritual gifts is very much like physical exercise. You need to practice and serve at all times in your gifts so that the Holy Spirit can build up your soul spiritually so that you may be bold in living and serving in your faith. But if you avoid serving with the spiritual gifts Jesus gave you then you will spiritually atrophy. You won't lose your gifts but you will be ineffective in your faith. Paul encourages Timothy to fan into flame the power of the Holy Spirit to use his spiritual gifts and not to be timid. Because the more you use your gifts the more the Power of God is revealed through YOU !!!

Here is the 5th talk by Pastor Jeff in the series called "The Power of the Gospel" and this talk is labeled "Powering Forward"!! Pastor Jeff a talented speaker and teacher of the Bible in this video sermon/audio only if you choose gives much encouragement, joy and hope to both Christians and unbelievers. To discover and develop their spiritual gifts through the person of Jesus Christ. For those of you who have not heard him speak he is truly one of the most authentic, genuine, straight from the heart, pull no punches, tells it like it is, gifted speaker of the Gospel that I have heard in a long time and have met. He is the 'real deal' and your time will not be wasted listening to him.

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Old 03-18-2017, 08:06 PM   #31
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Funny how the people who supposedly don't believe in God, always feel compelled to show up in these threads to tell everyone how they don't believe in God.

Wasting your time? Or more like fighting against something that doesn't exist?

Makes perfect sense, unless you are simply opposing yourself.
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Old 03-18-2017, 08:08 PM   #32
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Is slavery objectively moral?The bible condones and gives instruction for slavery.
Slaves in the OT were the Jews and were treated as such in the traditional definition of what we know as "slavery" however slaves in the NT were totally different than what we traditionally think of the term "slave" as in "slavery". Slaves in the NT were known as "bond servants". These bond servants were bonded to particular people who they owed $$ to and thus they would work it off. They were not tortured or beaten and could go home to their own families owning their own home etc...... really not much different than paying a bank off today. You are bonded to that bank legally and work to pay that loan off.
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Old 03-18-2017, 08:12 PM   #33
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Who said anything about atheists not being able to act in a moral way ? Of course atheists can act morally but it's their definition of where morality comes from that is hypocritical is what I and Frank Turek are speaking of. Did you watch the Frank Turek youtube I posted to GC ? Watch and listen very closely to what he say's.


Dawkins did a great job in your vid here pivoting away from the question asked of him because he knew where it was going very much like his debate with Lennox who pinned him in the corner(on moral absolutes) and got Dawkins to admit he doesn't believe in evil and that we just dance to our DNA. The questioner was right on the mark.
Great !I will keep my morality without accepting extraordinary claims without evidence.

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Funny how the people who supposedly don't believe in God, always feel compelled to show up in these threads to tell everyone how they don't believe in God.

Wasting your time? Or more like fighting against something that doesn't exist?

Makes perfect sense, unless you are simply opposing yourself.
Hopefully he will figure this out this point you have made. But you are spot on !!
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Old 03-18-2017, 08:15 PM   #35
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Slaves in the OT were the Jews and were treated as such in the traditional definition of what we know as "slavery" however slaves in the NT were totally different than what we traditionally think of the term "slave" as in "slavery". Slaves in the NT were known as "bond servants". These bond servants were bonded to particular people who they owed $$ to and thus they would work it off. They were not tortured or beaten and could go home to their own families owning their own home etc...... really not much different than paying a bank off today. You are bonded to that bank legally and work to pay that loan off.
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Funny how the people who supposedly don't believe in God, always feel compelled to show up in these threads to tell everyone how they don't believe in God.

Wasting your time? Or more like fighting against something that doesn't exist?

Makes perfect sense, unless you are simply opposing yourself.

Pretty much sums it up.

Ash comes out of nowhere and starts posting in the religious threads...
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Old 03-18-2017, 08:18 PM   #37
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Funny how the people who supposedly don't believe in God, always feel compelled to show up in these threads to tell everyone how they don't believe in God.

Wasting your time? Or more like fighting against something that doesn't exist?

Makes perfect sense, unless you are simply opposing yourself.
He invited unbelievers into the argument in the OP, hillbilly.
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Old 03-18-2017, 08:22 PM   #38
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Pretty much sums it up.

Ash comes out of nowhere and starts posting in the religious threads...

So an Atheist can't post in a thread that references unbelivers?
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Nope. It's truth. Research it.

If you knew for certain Christianity were true would you believe ?
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Old 03-18-2017, 08:33 PM   #40
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Slaves in the OT were the Jews and were treated as such in the traditional definition of what we know as "slavery" however slaves in the NT were totally different than what we traditionally think of the term "slave" as in "slavery". Slaves in the NT were known as "bond servants". These bond servants were bonded to particular people who they owed $$ to and thus they would work it off. They were not tortured or beaten and could go home to their own families owning their own home etc...... really not much different than paying a bank off today. You are bonded to that bank legally and work to pay that loan off.
Beating slaves was perfectly allowable regulated under the following rules:
Exodus 21:20-21 (NASB): 20If a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod and he dies at his hand, he shall be punished. 21If, however, he survives a day or two, no vengeance shall be taken; for he is his property.



Leviticus 25:44-46 (NASB) suggests how Israelites can utilize the full human resources of slaves:
44As for your male and female slaves whom you may have—you may acquire male and female slaves from the pagan nations that are around you. 45Then, too, it is out of the sons of the sojourners who live as aliens among you that you may gain acquisition, and out of their families who are with you, whom they will have produced in your land; they also may become your possession. 46You may even bequeath them to your sons after you, to receive as a possession; you can use them as permanent slaves. But in respect to your countrymen, the sons of Israel, you shall not rule with severity over one another.
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Nope. It's truth. Research it.

If you knew for certain Christianity were true would you believe ?
I have researched it and you're doing a terrible job at apologetics.
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...what exactly is it that you think this means?
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Beating slaves was perfectly allowable regulated under the following rules:
Exodus 21:20-21 (NASB): 20If a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod and he dies at his hand, he shall be punished. 21If, however, he survives a day or two, no vengeance shall be taken; for he is his property.



Leviticus 25:44-46 (NASB) suggests how Israelites can utilize the full human resources of slaves:
44As for your male and female slaves whom you may have—you may acquire male and female slaves from the pagan nations that are around you. 45Then, too, it is out of the sons of the sojourners who live as aliens among you that you may gain acquisition, and out of their families who are with you, whom they will have produced in your land; they also may become your possession. 46You may even bequeath them to your sons after you, to receive as a possession; you can use them as permanent slaves. But in respect to your countrymen, the sons of Israel, you shall not rule with severity over one another.
I though the Word isn't valid? Why are you invalidating your own argument?
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...what exactly is it that you think this means?
We have had conversations where you have acknowledged my use of the word Hillbilly in reference to your person. I thought it was a cute inside joke between you and me.

Or you were too drunk to remember? I don't know, I just plant seeds, Maybe they take root maybe they don't.
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We have had conversations where you have acknowledged my use of the word Hillbilly in reference to your person. I thought it was a cute inside joke between you and me.

Or you were too drunk to remember? I don't know, I just plant seeds, Maybe they take root maybe they don't.
please answer the question..by using that term, what are you attempting to imply?
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