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Old 03-16-2017, 10:59 AM  
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Trumps Budget, setting a direction

The Trump Business man shows in his Budget proposals. For sure he knows he wont get all he wants but he also knows that establishing that expectation will get him big gains in the final measure.

Cutting the UN is a winner with voters, Cutting the EPA and brining them back into focus on real world environmental protection is a must.

Slashing the Arts and PBS? Not so h=good in my estimation but we enjoy PBS and are long term contributors.

But bottom line is, He will accomplish a bunch by cutting fat department by department and moving things back to the states to do and reduce Washingtons overhead.



The new White House budget proposal, a wish list of President Donald Trump’s policies, would cut funding to several arts and grants programs that Republicans have decried for decades.

Trump’s 2018 budget, called “America First: A Budget Blueprint to Make America Great Again,” requests increases in defense spending and reduction of domestic programs.

Specifically, the budget “proposes to eliminate funding for other independent agencies,” including the National Endowment for the Arts (NEA), National Endowment for the Humanities (NEH), and the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which sends some amount of funding to PBS and National Public Radio.

Though Big Bird only re-airs on PBS (“Sesame Street” is now on HBO), eliminating funding to things like the NEA Corporation for Public Broadcasting is not a new idea. Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney suggested cutting the CPB during the 2012 presidential campaign, and was quickly criticized. Former President Barack Obama even accused Romney of trying to kill Big Bird in a campaign ad.
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Old 03-17-2017, 08:42 AM   #46
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No, it's actually not at all. Farmers are ****ed over enough already. USDA is a popular left side target, much like welfare is a popular right side target. But that's bullshit on both sides. The USDA needs its funding and more just as much as NASA in my opinion. And Trump has already said he would cut USDA funding by 21%. That's straight bullshit. I'm not sure if you understand what all that covers. I respect your opinion a great deal on most topics, but I think you're wrong here. Coming from a Kansas farm boy turned KC city dweller.
I am disappointed hcf didn't take my bait. I was for sure he would call me all kinds of names for talking about killing his welfare..err I mean subsidies. Darn it.
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Old 03-17-2017, 08:44 AM   #47
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Old 03-17-2017, 09:26 AM   #48
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Trump's budget is a good first step toward de-politicizing science.

Trump's proposed budget does little to change govt spending as a whole, but targeted cuts would have a positive impact beyond the US debt clock. The proposed cuts to the Energy Department, the EPA, and the National Institute of Health represent a significant step toward separating state and science.

For example , Dr. Michael Braken, at Yale University School of Public Health, has argued that 87.5 percent of the organization’s research is a waste.

Quoted and/or paraphrased from here but there's more.
https://mises.org/blog/trumps-budget...cizing-science
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Old 03-17-2017, 09:31 AM   #49
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Trump even helps the budgets of auto-makers because

Trump Thinks Your Car’s Gas Mileage is . . .Your Business . . .

“We’re going to work on the CAFE standards so you can make cars in America again,” said Trump. He should have added the qualifier – affordable cars in America again...

Obama’s mullahs uluated about the many billions (allegedly) which would be “saved” by force-marching every automaker to build cars that average 54.5 MPG. It is the sort of “savings” one realizes by emptying your bank account to buy something you don’t need that’s 5 percent off.

http://ericpetersautos.com/2017/03/1...eage-business/
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Old 03-17-2017, 09:49 AM   #50
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I have a solution to that problem.

http://fpif.org/too_many_overseas_bases/

In addition to freeing money to meet critical human needs at home and abroad, closing overseas bases would help rebuild the U.S. military.


What's our actual count of military bases? Well, seems to be a moving target. I only was talking about army bases before, not everything else. Where does a lot of the money spent at those bases go? To the countries they are in. Our military essentially provides more foreign aid than anything else.

https://www.thenation.com/article/th...re-in-history/

While there are no freestanding foreign bases permanently located in the United States, there are now around 800 US bases in foreign countries. Seventy years after World War II and 62 years after the Korean War, there are still 174 US “base sites” in Germany, 113 in Japan, and 83 in South Korea, according to the Pentagon.
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Old 03-17-2017, 09:52 AM   #51
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The money often is not going to Meals on Wheels or even to the neediest communities. As a*Reason Foundation analysis*also from 2013 shows, wealthier communities get the larger chunks of the money, particularly counties that—what a coincidence!—are in proximity to Washington, D.C….Check out*this audit*from Riverside County, California, for their CDBG expenditures for 2016, and there's neither a meal nor a wheel to be found. Of the $761,744 the county received, nearly all of it went to improve a playground and the sidewalks of a single local elementary school. And note that the reason they were audited by Housing and Urban Development was because they hadn't provided proper documentation of their expenses.
This explains the meals on wheels controversy
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Old 03-17-2017, 09:53 AM   #52
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This explains the meals on wheels controversy
You want to talk about embarrassing, that's embarrassing.
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Old 03-17-2017, 10:06 AM   #53
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MOW isn't directly Federally funded. What he said is states can decide if they want to spend federal grant $ on it or not.

Most of MOW money does not come from federal grant money. Its partially funded from BLOCK GRANTS given to states who decide what to spend the $ on.
Not sure whats so hard to understand about that... if the states want to continue the program, there is nothing stopping them

But I guess "Trump is starving housebound grannies!" makes a better lefty narrative
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Old 03-17-2017, 10:08 AM   #54
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This explains the meals on wheels controversy
Ya' know the whole "Meals on Wheels" started first in the private sector. Then govt took it over. So much for govt only helping others.
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Old 03-17-2017, 10:11 AM   #55
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I have a solution to that problem.

http://fpif.org/too_many_overseas_bases/

In addition to freeing money to meet critical human needs at home and abroad, closing overseas bases would help rebuild the U.S. military.


What's our actual count of military bases? Well, seems to be a moving target. I only was talking about army bases before, not everything else. Where does a lot of the money spent at those bases go? To the countries they are in. Our military essentially provides more foreign aid than anything else.

https://www.thenation.com/article/th...re-in-history/

While there are no freestanding foreign bases permanently located in the United States, there are now around 800 US bases in foreign countries. Seventy years after World War II and 62 years after the Korean War, there are still 174 US “base sites” in Germany, 113 in Japan, and 83 in South Korea, according to the Pentagon.
Those should definitely be a part of budget cutting. (Except now our new Sec of Diplomacy Tillerson has threatened NK with nuclear war.)
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Old 03-17-2017, 10:16 AM   #56
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(Except now our new Sec of Diplomacy Tillerson has threatened NK with nuclear war.)
You cant reason with maniacs, Tillerson is right to let them know all options are on the table
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Old 03-17-2017, 10:29 AM   #57
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You cant reason with maniacs, Tillerson is right to let them know all options are on the table
Well, this is not the thread to debate it. There is one already where this could be slipped in. (I beg to disagree that threatening that is the first way to go and is not what Trump promised he do.)
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Well, this is not the thread to debate it. There is one already where this could be slipped in. (I beg to disagree that threatening that is the first way to go and is not what Trump promised he do.)
Nothing to debate, we rarely see eye to eye on issues like this... and that will probably never change, and thats ok in a big tent
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I have a solution to that problem.

http://fpif.org/too_many_overseas_bases/

In addition to freeing money to meet critical human needs at home and abroad, closing overseas bases would help rebuild the U.S. military.


What's our actual count of military bases? Well, seems to be a moving target. I only was talking about army bases before, not everything else. Where does a lot of the money spent at those bases go? To the countries they are in. Our military essentially provides more foreign aid than anything else.

https://www.thenation.com/article/th...re-in-history/




While there are no freestanding foreign bases permanently located in the United States, there are now around 800 US bases in foreign countries. Seventy years after World War II and 62 years after the Korean War, there are still 174 US “base sites” in Germany, 113 in Japan, and 83 in South Korea, according to the Pentagon.


Thats all very nice and does not accomplish the mission. Stupid proposals
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Thats all very nice and does not accomplish the mission. Stupid proposals
What is "the mission"? To waste money? Mission accomplished!

We don't need excessive bases to keep America safe. We need fewer bases with better capabilities at those bases.
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