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Old 03-13-2017, 04:20 PM  
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Spicer: Trump didn't actually mean "wire tapping."

Didn't mean Obama himself either, but rather his administration.

Then why call him a "bad (or sick) guy"? "Sick" seems to imply that Obama himself was listening in when he was doing Melania. (Now there's a scary thought - a desecration - like throwing acid on the Mona Lisa.)

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White House appears to soften Trump's claim on wiretapping


WASHINGTON The White House on Monday appeared to soften President Donald Trump's unproven assertion that his predecessor wiretapped his New York skyscraper during the election. The shift came as the Justice Department faced a deadline to provide lawmakers evidence to back up Trump's explosive claim.

More than a week after Trump leveled his allegations in a series of early morning tweets, spokesman Sean Spicer said the president wasn't using the word wiretapping literally, noting that Trump had put the term in quotation marks.

"The president used the word wiretap in quotes to mean broadly surveillance and other activities," Spicer said Monday. He also suggested Trump wasn't accusing former President Barack Obama specifically, but instead referring to the actions of the Obama administration.

Spicer's evolving explanation underscores the bind Trump has put his own White House in. Current and former administration officials have been unable to provide any evidence of the Obama administration wiretapping Trump Tower, yet the president's aides have been reluctant to publicly contradict their boss.

Trump himself has not commented on the matter since his March 4 tweets, in which he said he had "just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory." He also wrote: "Is it legal for a sitting President to be 'wire tapping' a race for president?"

The president's accusations against Obama came amid numerous political questions surrounding his associates' possible ties to Russia. The FBI is investigating Trump associates' contacts with Russia during the election, as are House and Senate intelligence committees.

The White House has asked those committees to also investigate Trump's unverified wiretapping allegations against Obama. The House committee has turned the matter back on the Trump administration, setting a Monday deadline for the Justice Department to provide evidence.

Spicer said he expected the Justice Department to comply with that request. DOJ spokeswoman Sarah Isgur Flores said Monday that the department was reviewing the request, "but we don't have any further comment at this time."

Other congressional committees are also pushing the administration to clarify Trump's claims.

Sens. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., and Sheldon Whitehouse, D-R.I., asked Acting Deputy Attorney General Dana Boente and FBI Director James Comey to produce the paper trail created when the Justice Department's criminal division secures warrants for wiretaps. The senators, who head the Senate Judiciary Committee's crime and terrorism subcommittee, are seeking warrant applications and court orders, which they said can be scrubbed to protect secret intelligence sources and methods.

Trump's critics have slammed the president for making the wiretapping claim on his Twitter account without evidence. Wiretapping a U.S. citizen would require special permission from a court, and Trump as president would have the ability to declassify that information.

Sen. John McCain, an influential Republican, said Sunday: "I think the president has one of two choices: either retract or to provide the information that the American people deserve."

"If his predecessor violated the law, President Obama violated the law, we have got a serious issue here, to say the least," McCain said.

Comey has privately urged the Justice Department to dispute Trump's claim but has not come forward to do so himself. James Clapper, who was Obama's director of national intelligence, has said that nothing matching Trump's claims had taken place.

White House counselor Kellyanne Conway sidestepped questions about the lack of proof Monday, saying she was "not in the job of having evidence."

"That's what investigations are for," Conway told CNN's "New Day." "The president is pleased that the House and Senate intelligence committees have agreed that this should be part of the investigation that already exists about Russia and the campaign, an investigation that apparently has gone nowhere so far."

In a weekend interview with the Bergen Record, a newspaper in her home state of New Jersey, Conway appeared to point toward the recent WikiLeaks release of nearly 8,000 documents that purportedly reveal secrets about the CIA's tools for breaking into targeted computers, cellphones and even smart TVs.

"What I can say is there are many ways to surveil each other now, unfortunately," including "microwaves that turn into cameras, et cetera," Conway said. "So we know that that is just a fact of modern life."
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Old 03-14-2017, 04:39 PM   #106
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I don't believe that he ever believed what he said in those tweets. He intended them to raise a shit storm to draw attention away from Sessions' embarrassing Senate confirmation hearing testimony about communications with Russia.

Twitter is a weapon for him, and lies are his ammunition. Asking him to filter it would be like asking someone to filter bullets as they exit the gun barrel. If there was any way to do it, it would be counter productive.

We've entered the age of Trump. Propaganda is what matters to him. Not truth. And he obviously doesn't give two shits about the office.
Your outrage is noted. The thing I don't understand is why you were missing when Obama was doing it.

We haven't entered a new age, just a different administration you don't like. Trump uses twitter, Obama used the MSM that would never question him.
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Old 03-14-2017, 05:49 PM   #107
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Your outrage is noted. The thing I don't understand is why you were missing when Obama was doing it.

We haven't entered a new age, just a different administration you don't like. Trump uses twitter, Obama used the MSM that would never question him.
This is so stupid. Amazing how it is gospel among RWDumbasses.
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Old 03-14-2017, 07:38 PM   #108
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Your outrage is noted. The thing I don't understand is why you were missing when Obama was doing it.

We haven't entered a new age, just a different administration you don't like. Trump uses twitter, Obama used the MSM that would never question him.
I missed the part where Obama wagged the dog like Trump did with these tweets. When did that happen?
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Old 03-14-2017, 07:41 PM   #109
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I missed the part where Obama wagged the dog like Trump did with these tweets. When did that happen?
Twitter or a lap dog MSM, which is different?
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Old 03-14-2017, 07:46 PM   #110
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This is so stupid. Amazing how it is gospel among RWDumbasses.
We all know you have no moral compass so this post is laughable.
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Old 03-14-2017, 07:50 PM   #111
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It concerns me that the POTUS is either trolling the entire ****ing country, or gaslighting it.

I don't care what party the current POTUS is from, or what exact language he uses. Instead, it'd be REALLY ****ING NICE if he wouldn't make serious allegations about criminal violations by the opposing party with, apparently, no evidence whatsoever that he is interested in turning over. He's like the world's worst reporter, except he's the ****ing PRESIDENT, so when he spews shit people tend to pay attention and take it seriously.

But apparently we need some kind of filter -- in the form of Spicer or whoever -- to confirm what his words actually meant, and whether we should really pay attention to him this time, or whether, you know, he's just spewing shit that he has no intention of actually following up on because, you know, reasons.

It just gives me no confidence in the man with his finger on the proverbial button.
SERIOUS ALLEGATIONS!

Since when has anyone on the left given a **** about serious allegations and the consequences?

The last POTUS was an arrogant holier than thou **** for 8 years, sorry if I give a shit if Trump doesn't meet your lofty standards as POTUS. He is still heads and tails above the last **** wad.
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Old 03-14-2017, 07:55 PM   #112
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We all know you have no moral compass so this post is laughable.
Its all laughable.

Mounds of evidence showed Hillary was guilty as **** and she walks, now we are supposed to just be beside ourselves Trump has no hard evidence to support something we know is likely.

**** liberals and their ****ing crying ass bitching.
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Old 03-14-2017, 08:16 PM   #113
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Gaslighting...

A cheap, hipster created word that means... uh, something for sure dude

Conservatives should have some shade thrown on them!
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Old 03-14-2017, 10:03 PM   #114
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Trump himself says "Obama gone to tapp my phones"



Now tell me how this very specific accusation "tapp my phones" doesn't mean "tapp my phones"

"tapp my phones" appears to be very specific.
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A cheap, hipster created word that means... uh, something for sure dude

Conservatives should have some shade thrown on them!
Let me know as soon as someone "throws some shade" so I can tune in to TMZ and hear about it.
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Old 03-14-2017, 11:31 PM   #116
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Let me know as soon as someone "throws some shade" so I can tune in to TMZ and hear about it.
www.huffingtonpost.com... get your shade on
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Old 03-15-2017, 03:44 AM   #117
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So let me get this straight. We went from Obama tapped Trumps wires to that's not what Trump meant. How ****ed can you be to keep backing this guy up? Can you imagine if Obama tweeted the same about Bush? It's crazy. I'm just looking for accountability to false accusations.

P.S. **** Hilary and Obama
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Politics is hilarious. Whenever your guy ****s up, just blame his predecessor or point out a similar(but not really) **** up they had. It's easy to see why no one takes this shit seriously anymore.
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SERIOUS ALLEGATIONS!

Since when has anyone on the left given a **** about serious allegations and the consequences?

The last POTUS was an arrogant holier than thou **** for 8 years, sorry if I give a shit if Trump doesn't meet your lofty standards as POTUS. He is still heads and tails above the last **** wad.

Your defense to all this is the last guy sucked? Really? That's what you're going with? Not exactly a ringing endorsement. In fact, it's pathetic.
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Old 03-15-2017, 08:38 AM   #120
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Your defense to all this is the last guy sucked? Really? That's what you're going with? Not exactly a ringing endorsement. In fact, it's pathetic.
No dipshit, my defense is I dont ****ing care if Trump accused Obama of wire tapping him even if he has no proof.

I don't care.

I don't care.

I don't care.

Do you now get that?

Nothing bad is going to come of it either way. You all are crying about this and in reality it means jack shit.

You didn't care when it was Hillary, you didn't care when it was Obama, I don't care now that its Trump.

I DONT CARE.
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