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Old 03-12-2017, 08:25 PM  
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Just using this as a placeholder. Want to make sure cosmo has an easy place to find when he decides to detail what he claims were my widespread instances of racism on this forum.

You, know, make sure he has the floor.
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Old 03-13-2017, 04:21 PM   #31
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If the person can't even come up with any examples at all (controversial or not) then no determination should be necessary.
We've seen, time and again, media tossing out accusations based upon the flimsiest of so-called evidence. We've seen such accusations given legitimacy by others. We'll see that here. Hell, we already do.
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Old 03-13-2017, 04:26 PM   #32
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Old 03-13-2017, 04:27 PM   #33
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We've seen, time and again, media tossing out accusations based upon the flimsiest of so-called evidence. We've seen such accusations given legitimacy by others. We'll see that here. Hell, we already do.
Sure. But this isn't even that. This is a poster making an accusation, then making a few bitchy remarks instead of offering any proof, and then running away.
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Old 03-13-2017, 04:27 PM   #34
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We've seen, time and again, media tossing out accusations based upon the flimsiest of so-called evidence. We've seen such accusations given legitimacy by others. We'll see that here. Hell, we already do.
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Old 03-13-2017, 04:28 PM   #35
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cosmo?
I don't know. Maybe he's hiding with Big Flustered Queef.
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Old 03-13-2017, 04:32 PM   #36
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Tell you what, cosmo - if you can demonstrate to the forum that I've made racist remarks on this site I'll accept a permanent ban.
If you can't, you take a permanent ban.

Sound like a deal?

Since you have already claimed you remember all the racist posts I've made, it should be fairly simple.

I mean, this should be a slam dunk for you. You can get me permanently banned by just backing up what you said. Simple as pie.
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Old 03-13-2017, 04:33 PM   #37
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Old 03-13-2017, 04:35 PM   #38
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Sure. But this isn't even that. This is a poster making an accusation, then making a few bitchy remarks instead of offering any proof, and then running away.
That may be, but I didn't respond to the specifics of Cosmo's case. I don't see Cosmo's posts. I'm asking about the bigger issues, which are the accusations/claims or racism, the determination of their validity, and that determination having actual on-site consequences (banning to RR was mentioned, in this case).
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Old 03-13-2017, 04:43 PM   #39
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That may be, but I didn't respond to the specifics of Cosmo's case. I don't see Cosmo's posts. I'm asking about the bigger issues, which are the accusations/claims or racism, the determination of their validity, and that determination having actual on-site consequences (banning to RR was mentioned, in this case).
You should start a thread relative to your question.
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That may be, but I didn't respond to the specifics of Cosmo's case. I don't see Cosmo's posts. I'm asking about the bigger issues, which are the accusations/claims or racism, the determination of their validity, and that determination having actual on-site consequences (banning to RR was mentioned, in this case).
I think if people have an honest conversation because one person thought another person posted a racist comment then that would be a good thing for the board. Even if they walk away at the end of it in total disagreement it's still a worthwhile discussion, and I don't think banning anyone in that situation is appropriate anyway. It's not against the rules to be a racist. It's not against the rules to make racist comments, or express racist beliefs. AFAIK it's only against the rules to direct racial slurs at other posters. Maybe public figures as well but I don't recall that being a thing.
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Old 03-13-2017, 04:48 PM   #41
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That may be, but I didn't respond to the specifics of Cosmo's case. I don't see Cosmo's posts. I'm asking about the bigger issues, which are the accusations/claims or racism, the determination of their validity, and that determination having actual on-site consequences (banning to RR was mentioned, in this case).
The thing really started in Direckshun's thread where he lamented the lack of civil discourse in DC. Banning people for racist language was one of his points. I made the point that if that's a serious enough issue to have a panel of judges evaluate, then we should hold people throwing out unsubstantiated accustaions of racism accountable, as well.

I then remarked that I had come back, and made 2 or 3 posts before cosmo said something like, "Racist Hootie is back," as an example.

His response was that he remembered very well all the racist remarks I made and that I shouldn't be getting, "pissy," about it.
I asked him to elaborate on these supposed comments I'd made and he never responded.

So, to me, it was very fitting that in the thread where Direckshun was calling for more accountability and responsibility we have someone doing just the things Direckshun complained about.

So, it's absolutely fair and reasonable to call him out, in my opinion.

And if Direckshun wasn't just blowing partisan bullshit with his thread, he should be doing the same.

But he most likely won't, which is really all the proof you need to know that the concept of Direckshun as a fair arbiter would be a load of horseshit.
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Old 03-13-2017, 04:54 PM   #42
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I have no idea what's going on in here
Cosmo rip a rama.
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You should start a thread relative to your question.
My post was an appropriate question asked in an appropriate thread. Thanks for your advice, though.
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Old 03-13-2017, 04:59 PM   #44
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If you're asking me what actual consequences cosmo should face for this type of crap - I don't really need there to be any. Exposing his bullshit is enough, really.

What would be ideal is if more right wingers called out their own when racist posts occurred, and more left wingers called out people like cosmo for stuff like this.
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I think if people have an honest conversation because one person thought another person posted a racist comment then that would be a good thing for the board.
I've been here for a while now. I've never seen a single thing that would leave me to agree with your position. The idiocy of the recent pro-moderation push makes me even more confident that it would actually be a very bad idea.
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