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Old 02-12-2017, 11:08 AM  
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Help with a custom Computer build

Needs to work fast, Photoshop #1 use (installed not in the cloud).
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Looking at http://www.digitalstorm.com and http://www.ecollegepc.com, but not locked in to any site.
Want to keep it under $2k.
I have additional storage available so that's not an issue.

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Old 03-09-2017, 01:58 AM   #46
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So underwhelming its dropped prices of Intels across the board
I havent kept up on kaby lake prices but outside of a Microcenter in store pickup only discount I havent noticed these price drops people have been talking about. The i5 in my pcpartpicker build I made months ago is still sitting at the same price and the i7 upgrade is still the same price at $100 more.

Are we referring to the forbes article announcing a price drop on intel cpu's linking you to microcenter when its not uncommon to see deals like that for in store pickup? And for the majority of people building their PC those in store pickup deals aren't even worth it. I live 90 mins away from St. Louis and it would take about 3/4 of a tank of gas round trip + tax added onto the price of the cpu which would be around break even with the online retail stores, so unless I REALLY need the CPU that day it's no benefit.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VKx...bx80677i77700k

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dQM...bx80677i57600k

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xwh...-bx80662i56500

Those are the 3 processors I ever really paid attention to the price and there is literally no dip in the price graphs.

It's still going to take at least take one good AMD cycle for me to even think about building an AMD computer regardless of what the benchmarks are showing. Let me see in 6+ months if anything has changed with optimization.

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Old 03-09-2017, 11:11 AM   #47
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I havent kept up on kaby lake prices but outside of a Microcenter in store pickup only discount I havent noticed these price drops people have been talking about. The i5 in my pcpartpicker build I made months ago is still sitting at the same price and the i7 upgrade is still the same price at $100 more.

Are we referring to the forbes article announcing a price drop on intel cpu's linking you to microcenter when its not uncommon to see deals like that for in store pickup? And for the majority of people building their PC those in store pickup deals aren't even worth it. I live 90 mins away from St. Louis and it would take about 3/4 of a tank of gas round trip + tax added onto the price of the cpu which would be around break even with the online retail stores, so unless I REALLY need the CPU that day it's no benefit.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VKx...bx80677i77700k

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dQM...bx80677i57600k

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xwh...-bx80662i56500

Those are the 3 processors I ever really paid attention to the price and there is literally no dip in the price graphs.

It's still going to take at least take one good AMD cycle for me to even think about building an AMD computer regardless of what the benchmarks are showing. Let me see in 6+ months if anything has changed with optimization.

7700k bringing 299 now.

Microcenter is the test bed for pricing changes.

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Old 03-09-2017, 08:54 PM   #48
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God damn, my 1080 has lost so much value in just one week. Paid $720 for it in September and now I can buy a 1080ti for that price.
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Old 03-10-2017, 07:56 AM   #49
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God damn, my 1080 has lost so much value in just one week. Paid $720 for it in September and now I can buy a 1080ti for that price.
Yep.

Think about people that bought Titan Xs lol. The 1080TI is like within 2% of the Titan X and starts out 300 cheaper
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Old 03-10-2017, 06:27 PM   #50
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Yep.

Think about people that bought Titan Xs lol. The 1080TI is like within 2% of the Titan X and starts out 300 cheaper
The thing about Titans are people who buy them KNOW it's absolutely terrible when it comes to value. They pay that asking price to have that level of performance months before anybody else. If somebody bought a titan and didn't know there was to be a xx80ti card, then that's on them.
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Old 03-12-2017, 12:17 PM   #51
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PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QNqkm8
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QNqkm8/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-6800K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($402.58 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($57.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X99-UD3P (rev. 1.0) ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($193.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($97.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Intel 600p Series 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($108.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Toshiba 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Toshiba 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GT 710 1GB PCIE x1 Video Card ($43.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($40.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSC0B DVD/CD Writer ($16.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($88.58 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1407.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Old 03-12-2017, 05:21 PM   #52
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As a n00b builder imho you upgrade that power supply to gold 750.

And that gpu? You don't want any more capability than that?

Windows 10 retail costs a little more but you might want to look into it. Thumb drive loaded is handy.
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Old 03-12-2017, 06:00 PM   #53
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What is the thinking behind 4 randomly assorted hard drives with a 2k budget when you are at 1400?

You are paying $95+ for 2 TB of storage spread across 2 drives when you can get the same brand with 3TB in one drive for $15 less. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...D=3938566&SID=

And if you are going to go down the NVMe route, why the 600p? I'm not completely sold on the real world price to performance advantage over SATA drives, but that one is particularly mediocre and you arent trying to shave every last penny off the total price to squeeze it into the budget.

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Old 03-12-2017, 08:26 PM   #54
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QNqkm8

Any tweaks to this to make it better?

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QNqkm8
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QNqkm8/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-6800K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($402.58 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($57.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X99-UD3P (rev. 1.0) ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($193.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($97.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Intel 600p Series 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($108.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Toshiba 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Toshiba 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GT 710 1GB PCIE x1 Video Card ($43.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($40.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSC0B DVD/CD Writer ($16.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($88.58 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1407.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Four questions.

1) Why that motherboard? That is way, way more mobo than you need.

2) Why 50 gazillion different hard drives? You only need two. An SSD for boot/active files and a mechanical HD storage drive. You really don't need the M.2 drive at all. Get a 500gb Samsung Evo and a 2 TB Western Digital/Seagate HD and save some dough.

3) What the hell is with the video card? You might as well use onboard video.

4) What the hell is with the power supply?

One more question. Yes, I know I said 4 questions. Sue me.

Why no Ryzen processor? It is better for productivity than Intel.
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Old 03-13-2017, 02:39 AM   #55
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A r7 1700 or 1700x build will be cheaper and superior to that x99 build. Also you would be throwing away $44 on that video card, FAR better cards at that price on the used market. Low price doesn't always mean value.
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Old 03-13-2017, 07:55 AM   #56
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I just bought an I5 7600k. Unless you are going to be doing alot of video editing, streaming, hardcore multi tasking, there is no reason to get an i7. For just pure gaming i5 is plenty and if you OC it, you get some serious bang for your buck. I passed up the Ryzen for an I5. I just game on my PC though.
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Old 03-13-2017, 09:00 AM   #57
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I just bought an I5 7600k. Unless you are going to be doing alot of video editing, streaming, hardcore multi tasking, there is no reason to get an i7. For just pure gaming i5 is plenty and if you OC it, you get some serious bang for your buck. I passed up the Ryzen for an I5. I just game on my PC though.
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Old 03-13-2017, 09:06 AM   #58
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CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($328.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($99.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($209.97 @ Jet)
Storage: Corsair Force LE 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($130.20 @ Newegg)
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 7K3000 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.97 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 480 4GB ARMOR OC Video Card ($174.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12G 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($56.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1248.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Stronger Photoshop build, less power usage, better PSU (seasonic makes everyone elses PSUs FYI) Win 10 PRO (never get HOME) Same amount of SSD and HDD space, MUCH better GPU in bang for the buck/performance. Much faster memory, which matters for PS use.
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If you are going to dabble in OCing that 1700 should be able to get up to 3.9/3.9 on stock cooler and you are now talking near 6900k multi-threaded performance, on a 65w TDP, for less than 1/3 of the price.. amazing.
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Thank you all for the great input. Purchased at ecollegepc.com. will be shipping out in the next 5-7 days. I went with the Intel over the new amd, because they are too new. No reason to be first. The many hard drives are for os, scratch disk for photo shop and already have a few 1tb drives I'll be adding after the fact. In the end will have more storage than needed. The lower end video is only to run dual monitors with and to push the process off the mobo. Again, thank you all for the great feedback, you guys rock.

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