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Old 02-12-2017, 11:08 AM  
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Help with a custom Computer build

Needs to work fast, Photoshop #1 use (installed not in the cloud).
Running Dual monitors.
Looking at http://www.digitalstorm.com and http://www.ecollegepc.com, but not locked in to any site.
Want to keep it under $2k.
I have additional storage available so that's not an issue.

Thanks in advance for any help.
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Old 02-12-2017, 05:02 PM   #16
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http://www.ecollegepc.com/intel-kabylake.html
CPU: Intel Core i& 7700K 4.2Ghz 8MB Cache Quad-Core
Mobo: GIGABYTE GA-B250M-D3H (Intel B150, HDMI, PCI-E, 6xSATA, 4xDDR4)
Mem: 32GB (8GBx$) PC4 17000 DDr4 2133Mhz
SSD: 256GB Intel 600p M.2 NVMe PCTe 3.0 X4
SSD2: 256GB Intel 600p M.2 NVMe PCTe 3.0 X4
HD:1TB 7200RPM 64MB Cache SATA3 6Gbps Toshiba P300
HD2:1TB 7200RPM 64MB Cache SATA3 6Gbps Toshiba P300
Optical drive: 24X LG SATA Dual Layer DVD /-RW/CDRW
OS: Win 10 home 64bit
Power: 430watt EVGA 100-W1-0430-KR 80
$1312

This has more storage than I think I need.
The two M.2 SSD
one for OS
one for scratch disk space

The video on the motherboard is what for this setup I'm not sure about.
Do I need to have one or more video cards?
one video card is going to be fine. Please i beg you let me help you lol
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Old 02-13-2017, 07:41 PM   #17
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Last question how much you think I would save if I waited till March when the AMD is released?

Final build on ecollagepc $1504.00
Final parts list(below) $1258.83
price to build $245.17

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sGXmWX

CPU Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor $349.99
CPU Cooler Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $59.99
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z270M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $119.99
Memory G.Skill Value Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory $189.99
Storage ADATA Premier SP550 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $73.99
Intel 600p Series 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $108.99
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $49.99
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $49.99
Case Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case $69.99
Power Supply Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply 54.99
Optical Drive LG GH24NSC0 DVD/CD Writer $19.99
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $99.99
Total (12 Items): $1258.83
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Old 02-13-2017, 08:01 PM   #18
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You are going to save money. My guess is if you wait even a little longer for Intels return salvo (skylake-E) then you can save some big bucks.

Gotta kind of wait and see what happens but hardware prices are constantly falling outside of 'current gen'
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Old 02-13-2017, 10:12 PM   #19
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Last question how much you think I would save if I waited till March when the AMD is released?

Final build on ecollagepc $1504.00
Final parts list(below) $1258.83
price to build $245.17

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sGXmWX

CPU Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor $349.99
CPU Cooler Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $59.99
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z270M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $119.99
Memory G.Skill Value Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory $189.99
Storage ADATA Premier SP550 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $73.99
Intel 600p Series 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $108.99
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $49.99
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $49.99

Case Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case $69.99
Power Supply Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply 54.99
Optical Drive LG GH24NSC0 DVD/CD Writer $19.99
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $99.99
Total (12 Items): $1258.83
This build is horrendous. Like, really, really bad. It makes no sense whatsoever.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($343.33 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI Z170-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($101.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($214.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($168.01 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($92.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 470 4GB ARMOR OC Video Card ($164.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 w/Window (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($78.89 @ OutletPC)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($94.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $1392.03
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Old 02-13-2017, 11:04 PM   #20
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build one or have someone build for you.. If you intent on purchasing cyberpower is pretty good.

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/G...ty_8800_Pro_SE

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Old 02-14-2017, 12:04 PM   #21
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A couple of notes here, as i somewhat recently built a work machine to handle photoshop/Premiere and studied up and what's best for those applications in particular....

1. Your video card shouldn't be judged by gaming benchmarks. Aside from virtual memory, aim for a card that has a high Cuda Core count, or in AMD's language, "stream processors" as Adobe's programs are really built to utilize cuda cores/Stream processors. On high end non-gaming cards, you'll find that they have a very high Cuda Core count. So if you're planning on using a mainstream gaming card, check the Cuda Cores.

DO NOT simply look at gaming benchmarks for a video card. That's wrong if you're trying to build a graphics processing computer. Nvidia generally makes better cards for Video/Photo editing.

2. Adobe products are built to utilize every core in a processor. Unlike video games that generally utilize a maximum of 4-cores, adobe Photoshop & Premiere can and will utilize more cores if they're available.

With that said, i know AM3+ is out of date and soon to be replaced, but during my research i found that AMD's 8-Core processors outperformed Intel's 4-core processors in applications such as Adobe Premiere mostly due to the fact that Premiere could utilize all 8-cores on an AMD processor. Now, that doesn't ring true for gaming, as traditional benchmarks will have Intel's products eek ahead of AMD's dated processors. But again, we're talking about work, not gaming.

It's completely understandable if you don't want to invest into an outdated architecture, so with that in mind, if you go Intel, make sure you select an Intel processor with at minimum 4 physical cores.

NOT that hyper-threading shit that's generally found on I3's and lower end I5's. Generally Intel's budget CPU's are 4-core hyper-threaded. Remember that "4-Core Hyper-threaded" can also mean 2 PHYSICAL cores, and 2 Virtual cores. Get at minimum a high-end I5 that has at least 4 PHYSICAL cores, which equates to 8-core hyper-threaded. The more physical cores, the better for Adobe creative applications.

3. RAM is your friend. Don't be afraid to load up on RAM, the fastest you can buy. Because RAM is your friend, i would highly suggest a new Skylake build since those MoBo's can utilize the newer DDR4.

If i had to build yet another machine, i'd build a Skylake rig with ample DDR4 Ram (especially if you run dual monitors) and a 6-Core I7 (12-core Hyper-Threaded), a great SSD and a video card with a high Cuda Core count.
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Old 02-14-2017, 12:16 PM   #22
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Keep in mind that Intel's 6-core I7 CPU's = 12-core Hyper-threaded....

And if you really wanna get crazy with it, Intel makes a 10-core I7....(20-Core Hyper-threaded)
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Old 02-14-2017, 12:51 PM   #23
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Keep in mind that Intel's 6-core I7 CPU's = 12-core Hyper-threaded....

And if you really wanna get crazy with it, Intel makes a 10-core I7....(20-Core Hyper-threaded)
Thank you, very helpful for what I'm trying to do.

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Old 02-14-2017, 06:31 PM   #24
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Keep in mind that Intel's 6-core I7 CPU's = 12-core Hyper-threaded....

And if you really wanna get crazy with it, Intel makes a 10-core I7....(20-Core Hyper-threaded)
This is why my original build was a 6800k.. 6 cores, 12 threads, 32mb ddr-3000, lots of SSD space.. photoshop users dream.
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A couple of notes here, as i somewhat recently built a work machine to handle photoshop/Premiere and studied up and what's best for those applications in particular....

1. Your video card shouldn't be judged by gaming benchmarks. Aside from virtual memory, aim for a card that has a high Cuda Core count, or in AMD's language, "stream processors" as Adobe's programs are really built to utilize cuda cores/Stream processors. On high end non-gaming cards, you'll find that they have a very high Cuda Core count. So if you're planning on using a mainstream gaming card, check the Cuda Cores.

DO NOT simply look at gaming benchmarks for a video card. That's wrong if you're trying to build a graphics processing computer. Nvidia generally makes better cards for Video/Photo editing.

2. Adobe products are built to utilize every core in a processor. Unlike video games that generally utilize a maximum of 4-cores, adobe Photoshop & Premiere can and will utilize more cores if they're available.

With that said, i know AM3+ is out of date and soon to be replaced, but during my research i found that AMD's 8-Core processors outperformed Intel's 4-core processors in applications such as Adobe Premiere mostly due to the fact that Premiere could utilize all 8-cores on an AMD processor. Now, that doesn't ring true for gaming, as traditional benchmarks will have Intel's products eek ahead of AMD's dated processors. But again, we're talking about work, not gaming.

It's completely understandable if you don't want to invest into an outdated architecture, so with that in mind, if you go Intel, make sure you select an Intel processor with at minimum 4 physical cores.

NOT that hyper-threading shit that's generally found on I3's and lower end I5's. Generally Intel's budget CPU's are 4-core hyper-threaded. Remember that "4-Core Hyper-threaded" can also mean 2 PHYSICAL cores, and 2 Virtual cores. Get at minimum a high-end I5 that has at least 4 PHYSICAL cores, which equates to 8-core hyper-threaded. The more physical cores, the better for Adobe creative applications.

3. RAM is your friend. Don't be afraid to load up on RAM, the fastest you can buy. Because RAM is your friend, i would highly suggest a new Skylake build since those MoBo's can utilize the newer DDR4.

If i had to build yet another machine, i'd build a Skylake rig with ample DDR4 Ram (especially if you run dual monitors) and a 6-Core I7 (12-core Hyper-Threaded), a great SSD and a video card with a high Cuda Core count.

Skylake doesnt have a 6 core, the broadwell-E is intels current offering above 4 cores~

My 2k build still reigns supreme as mega photoshop master in this thread~
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The AMD cores are due around March 3rd, so the wait isn't extreme.

If they are back to the era where they actually give a shit, AMD did well in the multi-processing sector. I'd wait it out.
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The AMD cores are due around March 3rd, so the wait isn't extreme.

If they are back to the era where they actually give a shit, AMD did well in the multi-processing sector. I'd wait it out.
Agreed. EveryONE is waiting on these to drop. In fact, preliminary leaks show you could get extreme multi-threaded performance for less money than intel.
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You shouldn't be buying a cpu at all right now, ryzen is literally a couple weeks away.
Buy is on hold until sometime after March 3rd.
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Buy is on hold until sometime after March 3rd.
Good. Ryzen pre-orders opened today and it looks you are going to be able to get godlike performance per dollar for multi threaded applications like photoshop compared to intel.
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