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****OFFICIAL Walterfootball.com Mock Draft Thread****

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17. Charles Harris, DE/OLB, Missouri

The Chiefs currently aren't getting any pressure on the quarterback. That's obviously because Justin Houston is out, but Dee Ford, starting in his place, has done nothing. Tamba Hali doesn't have much longer remaining as a pro, so the Chiefs will need to find a suitable replacement for him.


49. Anthony Walker, ILB, Northwestern

The Chiefs could spend a second-day selection on an inside linebacker, given that Derrick Johnson is nearing retirement.
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Old 01-27-2017, 12:17 PM   #76
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Yeah, I've messed with several mock sites and MANY of them have every damn QB on the board gone by 12.

If Mahomes is gone by 12, we simply don't have the ammunition to get up that high. We can start knocking on doors around 16 but getting up higher than that is talking about a 1st this year, a 1st next year, a 2nd this year and maybe even a 2nd next year. We're gutting the top half of 2 drafts to take a flyer on a guy that would've been the 5th best prospect in next year's draft class.

And I hate hate HATE that rationale - it seems that it's always 'next year's class is better' until that year gets there and suddenly it isn't anymore. But I don't think you can justify that kind of draft capital.

If we could include Smith or Foles to ease the sting and perhaps provide value to a QB needy team that doesn't love what they see in this year's prospects, that would make it tenable. But I just don't know that we can pull it off otherwise.

And that. Would. Suck.
Bucky Brooks has Watson dropping to KC in his mock, take it for what it's worth.

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Deshaun Watson - QB, Clemson: Andy Reid is one of the best QB developers in the business, particularly with athletic playmakers capable of creating explosive plays with their arm or legs. Watson can sit and learn behind Alex Smith. He was a no-show at the Senior Bowl but he can make that up at the combine and his pro day. He also has the advantage of a nice title-game tape.
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Old 01-27-2017, 12:29 PM   #77
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I just don't see Watson falling that far. If the Browns don't go QB at #1....then they're going to grab one at 12. Obviously that all changes if they sign one or trade for one.

EDIT: He also doesn't have Kizer in the 1st round at all.
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Old 01-27-2017, 01:20 PM   #78
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Pundits have been getting Dorsey wrong since he got here. They all act like he's going to reach for need.

They were doing it with WR in the Peters draft when they were sure he was going to take Cameron Ervin or Jaelen Strong. In the Ford draft they had us on Bitonio and Kouandijo. Last year it was Boyd or Alexander.

Dorsey would obviously prefer it when need meets BPA, but he's shown repeatedly that if he doesn't see a 'value' at a position when he picks in the first day or two, he's just not going to go with that position. He's very much a BPA general manager. And while that includes fit/need, those aren't his overriding concerns.

McMillan will not be the pick in the 1st round. He just won't do it. McMillan isn't a 1st round talent and it would be a massive departure from Dorsey to reach for him just because of his position. I could see Davis as the pick but there's also a chance he doesn't last that long. Personally, I still see him as being taken about 15 picks too early there but others almost certainly disagree and Dorsey could be among them.

He will not reach for need.

I do agree that Dorsey will be very selective at ILB, especially if he looks at it in round 1.

I'm not putting Davis in round 1 either. He's a rangy player, but he's never really had to take on blocks in college. You don't even know if he can hold up against NFL rushing attacks. That said, the bigger concern is really his ability to stay healthy.

I like Davis' teammate, Anzalone, as a guy that can shed blocks and be a run stopper. Similarly, injury issues. Might be a good 3rd round type that can be the WILB.

At this point I think that Foster and Cunningham are the only ILB prospects that go round 1.
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If all the QB's are gone in the first round, I think you look at the best pass rusher on the board.

Charles Harris, Caleb Brantley, Ryan Anderson, Montravious Adams, Jordan Willis, etc

If you can't find a QB, pass rush is he next important piece and we all know it was a problem last year.

Then you have to scout the field and see if Nathan Peterman, Jerod Evans, Davis Webb etc would even be worth taking in rd 2.
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At this point I think that Foster and Cunningham are the only ILB prospects that go round 1.
Agreed. Foster and Cunningham are the only guys that I personally would be happy to take in RD1.

I just think Davis's athleticism and likely combine performance will turn some heads and get some team reaching for him a bit.
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Old 01-27-2017, 06:50 PM   #81
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Sucks that this year's QB offerings are going to be inflated. Mahomes will be overvalued, and there's no way Dorsey is going to package a deal to reach for him. I wouldn't, and I want a QB more than anything else.
Chiefs are just damned when it comes to QB's.
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Using Walter's 1/26/17 mock, I think O.J. Howard, TE Alabama, is the best value available for the Chief's pick. AR loves multiple TE sets and AS11 likes to target his TEs. I believe it would make the Chief's offense more consistently effective if AR and AS11 had 2 really good TEs. I don't think there is any question that the Chief's offense needs to be more consistently effective.
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Using Walter's 1/26/17 mock, I think O.J. Howard, TE Alabama, is the best value available for the Chief's pick. AR loves multiple TE sets and AS11 likes to target his TEs. I believe it would make the Chief's offense more consistently effective if AR and AS11 had 2 really good TEs. I don't think there is any question that the Chief's offense needs to be more consistently effective.
We could have Gronk and Kelce at Tight End and Julio Jones, Dez Bryant, and Antonio Brown as our 3 WR's and our offense wouldn't be consistently effective
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Using Walter's 1/26/17 mock, I think O.J. Howard, TE Alabama, is the best value available for the Chief's pick. AR loves multiple TE sets and AS11 likes to target his TEs. I believe it would make the Chief's offense more consistently effective if AR and AS11 had 2 really good TEs. I don't think there is any question that the Chief's offense needs to be more consistently effective.
Howard is going to explode up boards.

He MIGHT go top 10 by the time it's all said and done. He's an absolute monster.
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If all the QB's are gone in the first round, I think you look at the best pass rusher on the board.

Charles Harris, Caleb Brantley, Ryan Anderson, Montravious Adams, Jordan Willis, etc

If you can't find a QB, pass rush is he next important piece and we all know it was a problem last year.

Then you have to scout the field and see if Nathan Peterman, Jerod Evans, Davis Webb etc would even be worth taking in rd 2.
All of this
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Sucks that this year's QB offerings are going to be inflated. Mahomes will be overvalued, and there's no way Dorsey is going to package a deal to reach for him. I wouldn't, and I want a QB more than anything else.
Chiefs are just damned when it comes to QB's.
I'm guessing that Mahomes could very well fall to KC at #27. In fact, I could see either Mahomes or Deshaun Watson being available when KC picks.

I hope that if it comes down to either Mahomes or Watson... that we pick Mahomes.
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I'm guessing that Mahomes could very well fall to KC at #27. In fact, I could see either Mahomes or Deshaun Watson being available when KC picks.

I hope that if it comes down to either Mahomes or Watson... that we pick Mahomes.
Sounds good to me. Hope for the best!
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I'm guessing that Mahomes could very well fall to KC at #27. In fact, I could see either Mahomes or Deshaun Watson being available when KC picks.

I hope that if it comes down to either Mahomes or Watson... that we pick Mahomes.
There is absolutely no way Watson is available at #27 and with as much buzz as Mahomes has been receiving lately, it's not even assured that he'll be there at #27.

Watson will be off the charts at the Combines. If Mahomes throws well and checks out, he'll rise as well.
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There is absolutely no way Watson is available at #27 and with as much buzz as Mahomes has been receiving lately, it's not even assured that he'll be there at #27.

Watson will be off the charts at the Combines. If Mahomes throws well and checks out, he'll rise as well.
I don't disagree. The lowest I've seen Watson go in a mock draft was 25. Would just take one team passing on him (based on that one draft... I know) for him to be available. That said... I doubt he will be there.

I'm still crossing my fingers for Mahomes at 27 or a small trade up to go get him.
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I don't disagree. The lowest I've seen Watson go in a mock draft was 25. Would just take one team passing on him (based on that one draft... I know) for him to be available. That said... I doubt he will be there.

I'm still crossing my fingers for Mahomes at 27 or a small trade up to go get him.
Mahomes would be a major score for KC. "Win now" with Smith has gone as far as it's going to go, the Chiefs need to start thinking of the future.
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