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Old 01-08-2015, 08:29 PM  
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Old 03-01-2015, 12:12 PM   #31
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‘Game of Thrones’ Season 5 Will Kill Characters Still Alive in the Books

Death is coming for "Game of Thrones" characters in Season 5 -- even if they're still alive in author George R.R. Martin's "Song of Ice and Fire" novel series on which the HBO show is based.

‘Game of Thrones’ Season 5 Will Kill Characters Still Alive in the Books © Provided by TheWrap ‘Game of Thrones’ Season 5 Will Kill Characters Still Alive in the Books
"People are going to die who don't die in the books, so even the book readers will be unhappy," Martin told Showbiz 411 at the Writers Guild West Awards on Saturday. "So everybody better be on their toes. David [Benioff] and D.B. [Weiss] are even bloodier than I am."

Martin's avid readers who watch the fantasy series shouldn't be surprised, though. Several characters have already gotten axed on TV, even if they were still alive in print.

Season 4 characters that met death on TV include Jojen, Grenn, and Pyp, while Daenerys Targaryen's handmaiden Irri was murdered in Season 2.

Season 5 of "Game of Thrones" premieres on April 12.
I don't get this. If you want to create more "red wedding" shockers, then you have Lady Stoneheart which you haven't even used.

If its to gain more book readers as viewers, thats a failed strategy. they are already watching.
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Old 03-01-2015, 12:20 PM   #32
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Anyone want to take a...stab...at what happens to Jon Snow this season?
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Old 03-01-2015, 12:42 PM   #33
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If you know anything about his history he's always been an eclectic guy. While you might want to lock him in his den and skip all the other crap you don't care about, whether it's editing with Gardener Dozois or Wild Cards or Game of Thrones scripts or public appearances, the reality is that he's always had a lot of irons in the fire. I don't think he's doing all the non ice and fire just to avoid writing it
Cast on leaving the books behind.
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Old 03-01-2015, 01:01 PM   #34
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If its to gain more book readers as viewers, thats a failed strategy. they are already watching.
Unless it's somebody major, book readers won't care. And even if it is someone major, the books are the canon, not the tv show.
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Something to muse on while we wait another 6-8 years for the next book to come out...

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Old 03-01-2015, 04:44 PM   #36
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Anyone want to take a...stab...at what happens to Jon Snow this season?
The rumor is
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Unless it's somebody major, book readers won't care. And even if it is someone major, the books are the canon, not the tv show.
yeah, maybe they take some of the Stoneheart material and give it to Sansa?
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Old 03-06-2015, 02:57 PM   #38
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I wonder how much of the Arya story they cover from her time in Bravos. I really don't know what to think of them changing things. I certainly don't want them spoiling the 6th and 7th book, but I also am very loyal to the actual story. I'm just not going to be fully happy in any scenario where the show is somehow giving away something from the books. I will give the show credit for the Briene vs. Hound fight. The Hounds comments about "safe" to Briene are kick ass.
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I don't get this. If you want to create more "red wedding" shockers, then you have Lady Stoneheart which you haven't even used.

If its to gain more book readers as viewers, thats a failed strategy. they are already watching.
I agree. Lady Stoneheart is a fantastic shocker. The scene with her trying to hang Briene is on it's own a reason to bring the character in.
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I wonder how much of the Arya story they cover from her time in Bravos. I really don't know what to think of them changing things. I certainly don't want them spoiling the 6th and 7th book, but I also am very loyal to the actual story. I'm just not going to be fully happy in any scenario where the show is somehow giving away something from the books. I will give the show credit for the Briene vs. Hound fight. The Hounds comments about "safe" to Briene are kick ass.

Then you probably need to not watch the show.

It will probably be far easier for you if you consider the books and the tv series two different stories. One is told by the author of the books, so it's canon. The other is told by the producer of the show, so it's entertaining and all that, but it's not necessarily canon.

Otherwise your head is probably going to explode.
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Just learned the coolest bit of trivia about this show... the Red Wedding was based on a true story from 1400's Scotland called "The Black Dinner".

The boy king James and his handlers arranged for a recalcitrant Scottish warlord, the Earl of Douglas, to attend a dinner that would mark his entrance as a power player in Scottish politics... only to bring out a severed boars head on a platter, a symbol of ultimate treachery in ancient Scotland.

They took Douglas into the courtyard and beheaded him on the spot... some great mimicry from RR Martin, it seems pretty clear that the bloodthirsty Joffrey was based on James as well.

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Just learned the coolest bit of trivia about this show... the Red Wedding was based on a true story from 1400's Scotland called "The Black Dinner".

The boy king James and his handlers arranged for a recalcitrant Scottish warlord, the Earl of Douglas, to attend a dinner that would mark his entrance as a power player in Scottish politics... only to bring out a severed boars head on a platter, a symbol of ultimate treachery in ancient Scotland.

They took Douglas into the courtyard and beheaded him on the spot... some great mimicry from RR Martin, it seems pretty clear that the bloodthirsty Joffrey was based on James as well.

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RR Martin I believe has a masters in history. He is a huge history buff and pretty much everything in his books is based loosely on real events... or at least I read that somewhere.
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RR Martin I believe has a masters in history. He is a huge history buff and pretty much everything in his books is based loosely on real events... or at least I read that somewhere.
I'm not surprised at his masters, man... cannot wait for season 5, that show has reached Sopranos level mania with me.

Sooo incredibly well done... acting, dialogue, stories, cinematography, effects... its all there in spades.
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Then you probably need to not watch the show.

It will probably be far easier for you if you consider the books and the tv series two different stories. One is told by the author of the books, so it's canon. The other is told by the producer of the show, so it's entertaining and all that, but it's not necessarily canon.

Otherwise your head is probably going to explode.
I have thought about it. At some point I'm gonna hear about big stuff that happened on the show whether I try to avoid it or not. Especially if I'm waiting until beyond 2020 for book 7. Once the show is back on I'm sure I will enjoy how well it's done as I usually do. All just comes back to the frustration of waiting and not liking spoilers.
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