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Old 03-20-2017, 09:11 AM  
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Comey confirms FBI investigating Russia, Trump ties

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FBI Chief James Comey said publicly for the first time Monday that his agency is investigating alleged links between Russia and the Trump campaign and whether any crimes may have been committed during last year's election campaign.

"That includes investigating the nature of any links between individuals associated with the Trump campaign and the Russian government and whether there was any coordination between the campaign and Russia's efforts," Comey said in his opening statement to a dramatic hearing before the House Intelligence Committee.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/20/politi...a-wiretapping/

Ranking Member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Itelligence, Adam Schiff made the opening statement today:

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In July, Carter Page... [Trump adviser] travels to Moscow and gives a speech critical of the Trump campaign, and met the former head of Russian gas giant Rosneft, a Putin confidant, who may have offered Page a sweetheart deal of some kind, according to former British intelligence agent Christopher Steele.

Mid-July: Paul Manafort attempts GOP convention. Page, back from Moscow, also attends. According to Steele, it was Manafort who chose Page. Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak meets at convention with Page and Trump adviser JD Gordon, and with now-attorney general Jeff Sessions. GOP platform is changed, deleting language of support for providing weapons to Ukrainian forces.

Later in July: first Wikileaks emails pertaining to Clinton's campaign emerge. Intelligence agencies conclude the attacks were a Russian effort.

Late July: Trump praises Wikileaks and invites hackers to go after Clinton's emails.

August: Roger Stone boasts that he is in touch with Julian Assange and that more documents were coming.

August: Stone predicts Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta will have his time "in the barrel" - his emails published. "Stone shows remarkable prescience."

November: Trump wins election. Appoints Michael Flynn NSA. Flynn has been paid by RT and others. Flynn talks with Kislyak in December about sanctions and lies about it. Veep Mike Pence misinforms the public about it. President does nothing. Then when it comes out...

Schiff asks: Now is it possible that the removal of the Ukraine provision from the Republican platform was a coincidence? That Sessions failed to tell of Kislyak meeting? That FLynn lied about meeting Kislyak? That Rosneft sold a 19% share, which Page may have profited from? That Stone predicted Podesta would be hacked?
Pretty damn damning, especially Trump wanting to change the GOP platform to be Russian Friendly.
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Old 03-20-2017, 10:11 PM   #91
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Also interesting to note that Comey refused to say whether there was an investigation into the DOJ leaks.

He was more than happy to talk about the Russian investigation though.
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Old 03-20-2017, 10:15 PM   #92
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Sounds like a great idea. I got some friends at DHS and the CIA, who would really love to read your stuff from here.

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Old 03-20-2017, 10:35 PM   #93
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the fbi is still investigating ties between russia and america. hey, you trumpers, how long has our government been watching trump?
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Old 03-20-2017, 11:11 PM   #94
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Old 03-20-2017, 11:20 PM   #96
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As far as I can tell this is a big nothing Burger that's being milked for ad revenue.
As much as I dislike having Trump in the White House, I would rather there be no collusion with him and Russia and that he has the best intentions for the American people - just bad at his job.
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As far as I can tell this is a big nothing Burger that's being milked for ad revenue.
"Investigating" doesn't mean anything is happening, or will come of it. Forces are bigger than we know. We are simply being placated.

Comey is following the game plan. His strings are easily pulled.

In the mean time, Ivanka gets security clearance and an office in the WH. We should drop this crap and concentrate on what he actually IS doing behind the smoke.
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Old 03-21-2017, 02:42 AM   #99
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"Investigating" doesn't mean anything is happening, or will come of it. Forces are bigger than we know. We are simply being placated.

Comey is following the game plan. His strings are easily pulled.

In the mean time, Ivanka gets security clearance and an office in the WH. We should drop this crap and concentrate on what he actually IS doing behind the smoke.
What's he doing behind the smoke?
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As much as I dislike having Trump in the White House, I would rather there be no collusion with him and Russia and that he has the best intentions for the American people - just bad at his job.
Seems to me there's no evidence anything occurred other than Russia wanting him to win, just like plenty of other nations around the world which had seen the Obama administration's foreign policy become an abject failure.
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Old 03-21-2017, 06:50 AM   #102
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Also interesting to note that Comey refused to say whether there was an investigation into the DOJ leaks.

He was more than happy to talk about the Russian investigation though.
What's even more interesting is why he discussed the probe into Hillary before the election, but didn't mention the Trump-Russia investigation...
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I suppose some are still naive that the FBI at top levels isn't corrupt?

FBI has used old-style illegal wiretaps so spy on the opposition for R and D-tyrants since FDR. Yes, FDR. From FDR on including Nixon who learned it from FDR.
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Seems to me there's no evidence anything occurred other than Russia wanting him to win, just like plenty of other nations around the world which had seen the Obama administration's foreign policy become an abject failure.
Trump asks Russia to do what they did on live tv.
Stone predicted wikileaks would damage Podesta, bragging about it, saying he is in touch of Assange.
Trump team goes against the wishes of the rest of the GOP, wants to insert Russian friendly language into GOP platform.
Sessions and Flynn both lie about Russian contacts.


Trumpers: Nope, nothing there.
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