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Old 12-10-2016, 07:39 PM  
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CIA says Russia interfered in elections to help elect Trump

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The CIA has concluded that Russia intervened in the 2016 election specifically to help Donald Trump win the presidency, a U.S. official has confirmed to NPR.

"Before, there was confidence about the fact that Russia interfered," the official says. "But there was low confidence on what the direction and intentionality of the interference was. Now they (the CIA) have come to the conclusion that Russia was trying to tip the election to Trump."
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On Friday evening, the Trump transition team fired back with a statement dismissing the report of the agency's conclusion.

"These are the same people that said Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction," the statement said. "The election ended a long time ago in one of the biggest Electoral College victories in history. It's now time to move on and 'Make America Great Again.' "

In fact, Trump's percentage of the electoral vote in the 2016 election ranks 46th among presidential election winners in U.S. history
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Old 12-19-2016, 10:17 AM   #961
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The media was never more on the Dems side than this year, and with everything on the line the GOP took the whole enchilada. If THAT doesn't disprove your point here (and send yet another clear signal to shitstains McCain and Lispy) then nothing will
You misunderstood the meaning of my post.
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Old 12-21-2016, 07:39 AM   #962
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The CIA has accused Russia of interfering in the 2016 presidential election by hacking into Democratic and Republican computer networks and selectively releasing emails. But critics might point out the U.S. has done similar things.

The U.S. has a long history of attempting to influence presidential elections in other countries – it’s done so as many as 81 times between 1946 and 2000, according to a database amassed by political scientist Dov Levin of Carnegie Mellon University.
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Old 12-21-2016, 09:14 AM   #963
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Someone on TV last night asked, "If Russia hacked the election to help Trump win, then why did HiLiaRy win the popular vote?"

I thought it was a brilliant observation of the illogic of that claim.
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Old 12-21-2016, 10:10 AM   #964
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Someone on TV last night asked, "If Russia hacked the election to help Trump win, then why did HiLiaRy win the popular vote?"

I thought it was a brilliant observation of the illogic of that claim.
That doesn't expose a failure of logic. People try to do things without fully succeeding all the time. Personally, I doubt that the Russians thought they could prevent Hillary from winning, but there's no reason they couldn't have been trying to do it even though she ended up with a popular vote advantage.
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Old 12-21-2016, 07:24 PM   #965
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That doesn't expose a failure of logic. People try to do things without fully succeeding all the time. Personally, I doubt that the Russians thought they could prevent Hillary from winning, but there's no reason they couldn't have been trying to do it even though she ended up with a popular vote advantage.
Nope

All other facts show it's still a lie though.
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Old 12-21-2016, 07:31 PM   #966
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Nope

All other facts show it's still a lie though.
That's your opinion!
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Old 12-21-2016, 08:48 PM   #967
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That doesn't expose a failure of logic. People try to do things without fully succeeding all the time. Personally, I doubt that the Russians thought they could prevent Hillary from winning, but there's no reason they couldn't have been trying to do it even though she ended up with a popular vote advantage.
If we got outsmarted by the Russians, maybe they're smarter than us?
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Old 12-21-2016, 10:23 PM   #968
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If we got outsmarted by the Russians, maybe they're smarter than us?
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Old 12-21-2016, 10:55 PM   #969
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It's all about sabotaging Trump's detente with Russia

Agents and operatives in the intel community et al, should this be investigated, should be subjected to lie detector tests, and be made to testify under oath including questions as to who is leaking this claim to the antiTrump press.

Then head of the National Endowment for Democracy, the source of so much trouble around the world and in particular the Ukrainian crisis, should be made to testify under oath about their involvement in their anti-Putin demonstrations during the Russian elections of 2011, the revolutions to dump pro-Russian governments in their backyard.

Then call in John McCain to testify under oath and use a lie detector regarding his role in the overthrow of an elected govt and any involvement in Russian elections.

Let's get it all out on table so we can see the saboteurs of Trump's foreign policy.

Paraphrased Summary from http://www.theamericanconservative.c...oreign-policy/
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Old 12-21-2016, 10:57 PM   #970
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Old 12-21-2016, 11:08 PM   #971
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I've stayed out of the DC largely but I gotta comment on this madness. W



It's not OK. But it also isn't the end of the world. They released some information. They didn't actively change the results. They got the information without any journalistic integrity is far different than funding rebellions and shit like we do.

I'm not educated on where the information came from but if it was from Hillarys servers, quit being an idiot. If they're poking around on SoS servers they didn't stop at the email and we need to rectify that after we figure out what they got into.

If there was a major threat surely one of the billion people that work in the pentagon will rattle enough cages to make something happen.

The biggest thing to me why it's all "OK" - meaning I'm not ready to burn the whole thing down is how much of a ****ing clown show it is. FFS we elected a reality TV star basically. Sure he has done a bunch of other stuff, but he doesn't win without the celebrity factor IMO.

The bigger issue was that Hillary, who is unimaginably bad was going to thrash whatever Republican candidate we rolled out there. Hillary sucks out loud but she was going to waltz to victory. So in steps this dumbass loudmouth that nobody takes seriously. Every news outlet thrashes him, even the ones for his own party. He rocks the boat and so many people were tired of the same old shit. Obama ran on hope and change. The only changes were bad ones so the people voted for a guy that's NEVER HELD OFFICE. **** man. That's insane.

And it gets more insane. Dude comes up and says shit is rigged. Media plays up other candidates and thrashes him. He gets laughed at and called a fool. Then media doubles down on stupid and he calls them on it. Then Wikileaks comes out and releases a shitton of evidence that at least the media shit is right.

So then he catches hell because he won't automatically accept a result. He gets run through the ringer by every outlet. Then what happens? People in his own party won't accept the nomination and then dems go ****ing crazy trying to make something happen. The craziest of the crazy shit he said was pretty dang right. What the **** man?

Main point though, the dumb **** that was going to wipe the floor with the election if it weren't for a ****ing reality TV star coming in and nuking the whole ****ing **** was revealed to be more of a cheating ****ing lowlife scumbag than we all had thought. That's AFTER a laundry list of shady shit she did. It's too damn difficult for me to see Hillary as the victim here when she is such a piece of shit. My god man. Is it too much to ask that campaigns are run in good faith? **** all these mother****ers. The overriding issue is that our government employees are so far removed from actually serving their constituents that it's a ****ing joke. Trump may end up te same way. The Dem "change" candidate certainly was.

Why the **** should I worry about some country hacking some damn server when a vast majority of the people representing me in government don't give a flying feces about me. To me that is the much larger problem. And again, this shitbird was going to waltz right into the most powerful office on the planet.

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I haven't engaged in the rhetoric much, but I'll answer. There is a laundry list of shit that points to her being a despicable human but the one that is inexcusable is Benghazi. Terrorist attack on an embassy. Americans died. Her administration refused to send help. AMERICANS DIED. She rolls out in front of whomever will listen and spewed this ****ing YouTube lie. Americans died she lied to her constituents about it. Those are facts. Not hearsay, not rumors, not theories. Facts.

It is maddeningly retarded that the whole thing didn't immediately bomb her out of te election.

That is as bad of a failure as a public servicant that I can think of.
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Old 12-22-2016, 01:36 AM   #972
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Agents and operatives in the intel community et al, should this be investigated, should be subjected to lie detector tests, and be made to testify under oath including questions as to who is leaking this claim to the antiTrump press.

Then head of the National Endowment for Democracy, the source of so much trouble around the world and in particular the Ukrainian crisis, should be made to testify under oath about their involvement in their anti-Putin demonstrations during the Russian elections of 2011, the revolutions to dump pro-Russian governments in their backyard.

Then call in John McCain to testify under oath and use a lie detector regarding his role in the overthrow of an elected govt and any involvement in Russian elections.

Let's get it all out on table so we can see the saboteurs of Trump's foreign policy.

Paraphrased Summary from http://www.theamericanconservative.c...oreign-policy/

Last I checked lie detectors aren't really all that accurate.
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Old 12-22-2016, 01:48 AM   #974
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What's scary about this is there are people who genuinely think this would be okay because it helped them defeat their political enemies. Millions of people. That's terrifying. There's nothing okay about this. Even 10 years ago, I think this is the type of thing both parties would've come together on to figure out what's up. And so it goes.
That's because this is all a lie and most people see through it.
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Old 12-22-2016, 08:18 AM   #975
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Last I checked lie detectors aren't really all that accurate.
Well, they should still be subject to one as other criminal suspects are still subject to one. It would make a great point.
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