Football Would you bring in Hester? - Page 2

**The Franchise** · 02-15-2013, 10:49 AM

If he's released. ...that is. Think Toub would want him in KC?

www.rotoworld.com

New Bears coach Marc Trestman admits Devin Hester could be done in Chicago.

"(We) had a chance to talk a few minutes but we didn’t get specific on anything," Trestman said. "Just an opportunity to get to know each other but not to put in concrete what his role would be if he winds up coming back." Trestman's "winds up coming back" remark makes it clear Hester is more likely to be cut than retained. It sounds like both sides want a fresh start.

**gblowfish** · 02-15-2013, 11:11 AM

I'd only consider him if we dealt or cut McCluster.

mcaj22 · 02-15-2013, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by scott free

He's a damn sight better than Hester.

if a damn sight means walking with a limp for the rest of his life and never playing football again

then yes i agree hes better than Hester at that, but I dont want to sign a guy that is retired so, Hester it is

Pasta Little Brioni · 02-15-2013, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

if a damn sight means walking with a limp for the rest of his life and never playing football again

then yes i agree hes better than Hester at that, but I dont want to sign a guy that is retired so, Hester it is

I'm guessing he thought he was still playing Madden and had injuries turned off, heh

**bevischief** · 02-15-2013, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by scott free

I'd rather have Johnny Knox, that mfer is a burner and was really coming on as a receiver before he got hurt, he's had some real circus grabs.

Sorter · 02-15-2013, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free

He's a damn sight better than Hester.

Not sure if srs.

KChiefer · 02-15-2013, 11:29 AM

Do not give two shits about return men. Hell, the NFL wants to get rid of kick-offs and we want to go after that very specialist?

Do we need a good punt returner that has a good head and great hands? Yes, but find one already on the roster or draft one that does another job even better than he returns.

mcaj22 · 02-15-2013, 11:35 AM

yea how dare us give a shit about field position and team speed

a good return man didnt just win the super bowl or anything

KChiefer · 02-15-2013, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

yea how dare us give a shit about field position and team speed

a good return man didnt just win the super bowl or anything

Was his return huge? Sure. But remember this, the guy was a nonfactor throughout the year and his role as a WR was just as important as his return. Is Hester making that catch/getup/run/TD? No.

Ace Gunner · 02-15-2013, 12:05 PM

Frankie · 02-15-2013, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22

yea how dare us give a shit about field position and team speed

a good return man didnt just win the super bowl or anything

**Easy 6** · 02-15-2013, 12:25 PM

ok, i done been had... was unaware that Knox' injury was career ending.

If he was back i'd stand behind my statement, but he's not, so...

HolyHat · 02-15-2013, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

yea how dare us give a shit about field position and team speed

a good return man didnt just win the super bowl or anything

So now Jacoby Jones won the Ravens the super bowl?

Oh Lawd...

mcaj22 · 02-15-2013, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefer

Was his return huge? Sure. But remember this, the guy was a nonfactor throughout the year and his role as a WR was just as important as his return. Is Hester making that catch/getup/run/TD? No.

What i do remember, is if you actually follow the NFL, is the guy BEING a factor throughout the year as a RETURN man, just like he was in the Super bowl

Jacoby Jones led the LEAGUE in 30 yards per return average. Essentially Joe Flacco starting drives on the 30 or more,

for comparison sake, we had Shaun Draughn who averaged 21 yards per return.

So Flacco getting the ball at the 30 versus Brady Quinn/Matt Cassel starting at the 21, if the return begins at the 1. And it takes one sack or rushing play that nets a loss of yards for that drive at the 21 to be in the teens. Essentially poor field position KILLING drives before they even begin.

I dont know about you, but I'm sick of that

WhiteWhale · 02-15-2013, 12:35 PM

I love that we're having this discussion 3 years after Pioli spent two 2nd round picks on guys who were supposed to handle the PR and KR duties.

KChiefer · 02-15-2013, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22

What i do remember, is if you actually follow the NFL, is the guy BEING a factor throughout the year as a RETURN man, just like he was in the Super bowl

Jacoby Jones led the LEAGUE in 30 yards per return average. Essentially Joe Flacco starting drives on the 30 or more,

for comparison sake, we had Shaun Draughn who averaged 21 yards per return.

So Flacco getting the ball at the 30 versus Brady Quinn/Matt Cassel starting at the 21, if the return begins at the 1. And it takes one sake or rushing play that nets a loss of yards for that drive at the 21 to be in the teens. Essentially poor field position KILLING drives before they even begin.

I dont know about you, but I'm sick of that

I admit, I wrongly called him a non-factor during the season. But how great was he in Houston? Baltimore has had a history of returning the ball well. We have not. We know Reid likes speed, but find it in a guy who's not headed into the backend of his career.

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