Cardinals ***Official 2016 STL Cardinals Thread*** - Page 7

**BigRedChief** · 04:18 PM

2011 World Series Championship
2012 NLCS. One win from another WS appearance.
2013 World Series. Two wins from another World Series Championship
2014 NLCS. Three wins from another WS appearance
2015 Central Division title. Won 100 games. Lost in the NLDS.
Made the postseason 11 times in the last 15 seasons.
67 post season wins since 2004. 24+ wins more than any other team.

SI article on our off season, Gives us a "A". ??:
http://www.si.com/mlb/2016/02/12/win...ouis-cardinals

2015 III thread:
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=295296
2015 II thread:
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=293412
2015 I thread:
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=289085

DJ's left nut · 03-26-2016, 12:05 PM

Good news, Cards fans!

Matt Holliday's swing is almost completely inside out at this point so any expectation that his power will come back is probably going to go unrealized. Brandon Moss still blows and Yadier Molina is still a first pitch hacker who's prone to weak contact.

That's only our 3, 5 and 6 hitters so no big deal.

This offense is going to be absolutely abysmal and no, the pitching will absolutely not be as good as it was last year because that kind of string luck simply will not hold. The folks that expect the pitching to be as good as it was sound just like the people who figured the .325 BA with RISP from 2011 meant we'd still be a badass offense in 2012.

To be fair, they don't 'sound just like' those people, they are those people.

This team is just way too fond of seeing luck as skill.

bdj23 · 03-26-2016, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Good news, Cards fans!

Matt Holliday's swing is almost completely inside out at this point so any expectation that his power will come back is probably going to go unrealized. Brandon Moss still blows and Yadier Molina is still a first pitch hacker who's prone to weak contact.

That's only our 3, 5 and 6 hitters so no big deal.

This offense is going to be absolutely abysmal and no, the pitching will absolutely not be as good as it was last year because that kind of string luck simply will not hold. The folks that expect the pitching to be as good as it was sound just like the people who figured the .325 BA with RISP from 2011 meant we'd still be a badass offense in 2012.

To be fair, they don't 'sound just like' those people, they are those people.

This team is just way too fond of seeing luck as skill.

I watched Yadi's 7th inning at bat in that spring training game they showed yesterday on espn (right when i tuned in) first pitch, chop one to the SS, i then muted it and took a nap.

Mi_chief_fan · 03-26-2016, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

He's not the worst player, but as Cardinal fans we expect better. They offered him a fair contract and he ran to the perennial losers. If he fails he fails. Enjoy that soft piece of trash.

Well said

brucey_72 · 03-29-2016, 02:12 AM

Almost here guys..

I got my new Billy Goat Curse avatar, hoping it ends this year for my Cubs. Will be rocking it for this season

bdj23 · 03-29-2016, 09:34 AM

http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/st-louis...-hunt-and-peck

Even our coaches can't stay healthy.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-29-2016, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BDj23

http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/st-louis...-hunt-and-peck

Even our coaches can't stay healthy.

This is a good thing. Oquendo is a horrible 3B coach.

O.city · 03-29-2016, 11:49 AM

Dunno that I've ever been this disinterested in a Cardinals season ever. Just no excitement at all.

DJ's left nut · 03-29-2016, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Dunno that I've ever been this disinterested in a Cardinals season ever. Just no excitement at all.

This should help....

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseb...ign=user-share

Team meeting and clubhouse turmoil and they haven't even broken camp this year.

That's okay guys - Leake's got this!

Good work, Moe. Hell of a bunch you've assembled here.

O.city · 03-29-2016, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

This should help....

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseb...ign=user-share

Team meeting and clubhouse turmoil and they haven't even broken camp this year.

That's okay guys - Leake's got this!

Good work, Moe. Hell of a bunch you've assembled here.

Huh.

Winder what the hell is going on.

And ****, it seems like this is 3 years running were gonna have an lagging offense.

jd1020 · 03-29-2016, 04:22 PM

Didn't read that entire article but are they really freaking out about a Spring Training record? Last I checked, the Reds were the only team with a winning record in the central. The Cards, Cubs, and Pirates records are all trash.

EDIT: Now the Reds even have a losing record. The Brewers, currently sporting a .500 record, are the only team without one.

Mi_chief_fan · 03-29-2016, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Didn't read that entire article but are they really freaking out about a Spring Training record? Last I checked, the Reds were the only team with a winning record in the central. The Cards, Cubs, and Pirates records are all trash.

Its not the record, but from what I've seen their play has been total trash this spring. I think they have more errors than runs this spring. They can't hit Manager's a bible-thumping moron. Put them all together, you get a team meeting. In spring training.

Yeah, should be a great season

jd1020 · 03-29-2016, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mi_chief_fan

Its not the record, but from what I've seen their play has been total trash this spring. I think they have more errors than runs this spring. They can't hit Manager's a bible-thumping moron. Put them all together, you get a team meeting. In spring training.

Yeah, should be a great season

I can see that. I watched a little bit of the Cards vs Diamondbacks (I think) and Wong made his 5th or something error of spring, then the SS fumbled a ball, then Carpenter went after a chopper like a lazy bum and it went right over his glove. Think that all happened in the same inning.

raybec 4 · 03-29-2016, 04:47 PM

I'm not a sky is falling type of guy but I see 80 wins as the ceiling this season

**BigRedChief** · 03-29-2016, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Didn't read that entire article but are they really freaking out about a Spring Training record? Last I checked, the Reds were the only team with a winning record in the central. The Cards, Cubs, and Pirates records are all trash.

EDIT: Now the Reds even have a losing record. The Brewers, currently sporting a .500 record, are the only team without one.

No one is saying anything on the record. Most of the smoke is the lack of reps not just in games but in practice. Players don't feel ready.

The Cardinals cut back on reps to try to keep everyone fresh for late Sept./Oct.

**BigRedChief** · 03-29-2016, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4

I'm not a sky is falling type of guy but I see 80 wins as the ceiling this season

I watched Martinez pitch again yesterday. He didn't even look like he was trying and was just masterful. No kidding, he looked like he was going 75% speed against the Mets starters and they just couldn't barrel up anything. He completely owned Cespedes.

He could win the Cy Young this year if he keeps this level of performance up the whole season that Ive seen the last couple of games.

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