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Old 09-18-2018, 11:04 AM  
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NYT published opinion piece: USSC needs term limits

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By David Leonhardt
Opinion Columnist

Sept. 18, 2018

No other major democracy has lifetime appointments to its highest court. Only the United States does, and it creates all kinds of problems.

For one, our system often does not respect the will of the people. Rather than the Supreme Courtís makeup being determined by elections over many years, itís based on a combination of those elections and the randomness of how long justices live. Jimmy Carter was unable to make a single nomination to the court because no justice died or retired during his four-year presidency. Richard Nixon filled four seats during his five-and-a-half years as president.
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Old 09-18-2018, 03:05 PM   #31
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The Supreme Court is not commissioned with reflecting the will of the people.

The Supreme Court determines the constitutionality of laws enacted by legislatures.

You have a Constitution. You have a statute. You have an affected party petitioning for review. You have everything the Supreme Court needs.

Reflecting the will of the people is the commission of the legislators crafting the laws, and the executives implementing them.
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Old 09-18-2018, 03:32 PM   #32
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Can I see a show of hands of those who think Loneiguana should be in charge of re-writing our constitution? Anyone?
He cant wipe his own ass much less decide things that require some thought.
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Old 09-18-2018, 04:01 PM   #33
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I doubt you could ever get an amendment through. The best chance would be to have all the current judges keep life time appointments and then at some date, far enough in the future that nobody would know who would be President and which party controlled the presidency, to make changes.

I think it would be better if the SC looked more like appellate courts where you had 19 or 21 members. Most cases could be heard by a 3 judge panel, but the full court could hear/review a 3 panel ruling if it wanted to.

More judges would mean that each particular judge was no longer as important. The court could hear far more cases than it does today. There are currently too many areas where the different circuits have come to different rulings and it stays that way until the SC hears a case to decide it.

Society is far more complex than it was in the late 1700's. More judges would mean more backgrounds and areas of expertise.
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Old 09-18-2018, 04:02 PM   #34
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I am all for taking term limits off the presidency. 12 to 16 years of Trump would do wonders for the country.
Like Trump would have beat Obama...

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Old 09-18-2018, 04:30 PM   #35
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Can I see a show of hands of those who think Loneiguana should be in charge of re-writing our constitution? Anyone?
We wouldn't trust him to mop a McDonalds floor, and you're suggesting we let him rewrite the entire Constitution by himself.


I must pleasantly disagree sir.
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Old 09-18-2018, 06:09 PM   #36
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Old 09-18-2018, 06:14 PM   #37
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Oh please, like youíve read them. Why should anyone care about a Supreme Court jurisprudence critique from a guy that struggles with Run, Spot Run?
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Old 09-18-2018, 07:11 PM   #38
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He cant wipe his own ass much less decide things that require some thought.
Someone here should do a Ben Garrison of Loneidiot. A cartoon of a toddler, with a poopy diaper and tears flying in a tantrum scribbling on a piece of paper - the quotation reading "But it's a LIVING document WAHHHHH!"
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Old 09-18-2018, 09:57 PM   #39
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The Supreme Court is not commissioned with reflecting the will of the people.

The Supreme Court determines the constitutionality of laws enacted by legislatures.

You have a Constitution. You have a statute. You have an affected party petitioning for review. You have everything the Supreme Court needs.

Reflecting the will of the people is the commission of the legislators crafting the laws, and the executives implementing them.
Man I thought I was going to have to come in here and school some people.
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Old 09-18-2018, 09:59 PM   #40
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Leave it to NYTs to write an op-ed on changing a key aspect of the Constitution.

No one around today, beats the wisdom of our Framers on this one.

It's like asking cases to be decided with an eye to the next election. The courts need to be able to decide difficult cases without worrying about whether their decision was popular or not. Majorities are likely to influence the congress and president to take unconstitutional action. This would lead to unrestrained power. Naturally, it's what haters of the document want. It's just overthrowing our republican system. It's no wonder the op-ed uses the word "democracy."
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Old 09-18-2018, 10:00 PM   #41
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We wouldn't trust him to mop a McDonalds floor, and you're suggesting we let him rewrite the entire Constitution by himself.


I must pleasantly disagree sir.
Maybe they can contribute you know get coffee food and stuff
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Old 09-18-2018, 10:05 PM   #42
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Tell you what: do the same for congress, and I'll consider it.
Pass an amendment to the Constitution.

So tired of people wanting to randomly change the Constitution. If you canít muster the votes to change it then that should tell you something.

None of this is directed at Donger by the way, Iím just tired of people who want to restrict rights or change our system of government on whims when the founders smartly provided a mechanism with a high bar to do it in an orderly and representative way.
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Old 09-19-2018, 01:32 AM   #43
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Good. Now I can withdraw my apology and treat u like the ignoramus u have shown yourself to be many times over. Though, in this case, you have at least offered an opinion that isnít simply a parroted talking point from lefty media babble. I suppose this is an improvement.
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Old 09-19-2018, 05:00 AM   #44
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Good. Now I can withdraw my apology and treat u like the ignoramus u have shown yourself to be many times over. Though, in this case, you have at least offered an opinion that isnít simply a parroted talking point from lefty media babble. I suppose this is an improvement.
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Pass an amendment to the Constitution.

So tired of people wanting to randomly change the Constitution. If you canít muster the votes to change it then that should tell you something.

None of this is directed at Donger by the way, Iím just tired of people who want to restrict rights or change our system of government on whims when the founders smartly provided a mechanism with a high bar to do it in an orderly and representative way.
Why do that if you can just appoint enough SC justices to rewrite the Constitution for you without that messy amendment process?
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