Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room > Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-08-2022, 06:43 AM  
Couch-Potato Couch-Potato is offline
MVP
 
Couch-Potato's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Casino cash: $3373065
ESPN's 2-RD Chiefs Mock Draft:

30. Kansas City Chiefs
Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama

Prior to tearing an ACL in the national title game, Williams had a strong case for being the first wide receiver off the board. I still expect him to go in the top 35 picks, but teams will have to think beyond the 2022 season, because he might have to miss some time as a rookie. He could land in the perfect spot in Kansas City, joining an explosive offense that has been in search of adding a deep threat alongside Tyreek Hill, Travis Kelce and Mecole Hardman. Williams would give the Chiefs a strength on a strength, adding another target for quarterback Patrick Mahomes.

Biggest needs: WR, EDGE, DB



62. Kansas City Chiefs
Martin Emerson, CB, Mississippi State

Emerson could get more buzz over the next two months, as he is a strong and physical corner who quietly had a productive season for the Bulldogs, even if he didn't have any interceptions. He could be a popular choice for teams that run lots of zone scheme concepts.

Biggest needs: WR, EDGE, DB
Posts: 5,917
Couch-Potato has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Couch-Potato has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Couch-Potato has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Couch-Potato has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Couch-Potato has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Couch-Potato has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Couch-Potato has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Couch-Potato has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Couch-Potato has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Couch-Potato has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Couch-Potato has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2022, 09:20 AM   #2
AdolfOliverBush AdolfOliverBush is offline
Rookie
 
AdolfOliverBush's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2019
Casino cash: $5920400
They likely won't get Williams without trading up, but it's an interesting thought.

I think EDGE is a bigger need than WR.
Posts: 0
AdolfOliverBush has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.AdolfOliverBush has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.AdolfOliverBush has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.AdolfOliverBush has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.AdolfOliverBush has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.AdolfOliverBush has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.AdolfOliverBush has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.AdolfOliverBush has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.AdolfOliverBush has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.AdolfOliverBush has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.AdolfOliverBush has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2022, 09:37 AM   #3
duncan_idaho duncan_idaho is offline
M-I-Z-Z-O-U
 
duncan_idaho's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Kansas City
Casino cash: $1870308
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush View Post
They likely won't get Williams without trading up, but it's an interesting thought.

I think EDGE is a bigger need than WR.
Edge is also cheaper and easier to address in free agency/trade.

For me, it's DE and WR. And then everything else.

1a DE
1b WR
2 CB/S
3 DT
4 OT
5 SLB
__________________
"You gotta love livin', cause dying is a pain in the ass."
---- Sinatra
Posts: 21,029
duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.
Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2022, 09:44 AM   #4
The Franchise The Franchise is online now
Most Valuable Villain
 
The Franchise's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2006
Casino cash: $3225047
This offense doesn’t need another deep threat. It needs a WR to get open in single coverage when they’re taking away Hill and Kelce. And it needs one now….not later in the year when they’re finally healthy.

This is lazy ****ing writing.
Posts: 91,907
The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2022, 10:24 AM   #5
duncan_idaho duncan_idaho is offline
M-I-Z-Z-O-U
 
duncan_idaho's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Kansas City
Casino cash: $1870308
John Metchie is a better fit for KC than Williams. I think that probably makes more sense for KC if they're targeting one of the Bama WRs.

He doesn't have QUITE as much crazy speed, but he's on track to be back to football activities by August/September (clean ACL tear, he's already 2 months out), and he's a more polished/rounded receiver than Williams.
__________________
"You gotta love livin', cause dying is a pain in the ass."
---- Sinatra
Posts: 21,029
duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2022, 10:30 AM   #6
The Franchise The Franchise is online now
Most Valuable Villain
 
The Franchise's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2006
Casino cash: $3225047
Quote:
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho View Post
John Metchie is a better fit for KC than Williams. I think that probably makes more sense for KC if they're targeting one of the Bama WRs.

He doesn't have QUITE as much crazy speed, but he's on track to be back to football activities by August/September (clean ACL tear, he's already 2 months out), and he's a more polished/rounded receiver than Williams.
Or...and hear me out....how about we don't draft a WR that high who's coming off of a major injury already in their career.
Posts: 91,907
The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.
Thumbs Up 2 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2022, 10:33 AM   #7
duncan_idaho duncan_idaho is offline
M-I-Z-Z-O-U
 
duncan_idaho's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Kansas City
Casino cash: $1870308
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Franchise View Post
Or...and hear me out....how about we don't draft a WR that high who's coming off of a major injury already in their career.
Shit man. I'd gladly draft Metchie in round 2 (and maybe even move up a bit to get him) and let him sit for the first quarter of the season.

They've shown a clear willingness to draft less valuable positions in round 2 and not get immediate returns from them.

ACL injuries usually are not a big deal and it sounds like Metchie's falls in the "clean" territory. Not really a predictor of future problems. He doesn't have other injury concerns that I recall.
__________________
"You gotta love livin', cause dying is a pain in the ass."
---- Sinatra
Posts: 21,029
duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2022, 11:23 AM   #8
Dante84 Dante84 is offline
Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs
 
Dante84's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: ATX & OPKS
Casino cash: $1901996
VARSITY
Quote:
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho View Post
Shit man. I'd gladly draft Metchie in round 2 (and maybe even move up a bit to get him) and let him sit for the first quarter of the season.

They've shown a clear willingness to draft less valuable positions in round 2 and not get immediate returns from them.

ACL injuries usually are not a big deal and it sounds like Metchie's falls in the "clean" territory. Not really a predictor of future problems. He doesn't have other injury concerns that I recall.
Yessir - Edge Round 1, Metchie Round 2 is a train that I am riding on.
__________________
..
Posts: 19,567
Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2022, 11:46 AM   #9
Toad Toad is offline
Pepsi, cheeburger, chip
 
Toad's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Location: Location
Casino cash: $2194810
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dante84 View Post
Yessir - Edge Round 1, Metchie Round 2 is a train that I am riding on.
I’m down with that. Dreams of Jermaine Johnson in R1 and Metchie in R2 run thru my head.
__________________
Pepsi, cheeburger, chip
Posts: 1,226
Toad would the whole thing.Toad would the whole thing.Toad would the whole thing.Toad would the whole thing.Toad would the whole thing.Toad would the whole thing.Toad would the whole thing.Toad would the whole thing.Toad would the whole thing.Toad would the whole thing.Toad would the whole thing.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2022, 12:09 AM   #10
kcbubb kcbubb is offline
Veteran
 

Join Date: Nov 2008
Casino cash: $6146719
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Franchise View Post
This offense doesn’t need another deep threat. It needs a WR to get open in single coverage when they’re taking away Hill and Kelce. And it needs one now….not later in the year when they’re finally healthy.

This is lazy ****ing writing.
How is it lazy? Hardman is probably gone after next so we have room for another speedster and Williams is a good route runner. Bama does a good job of developing their wrs. Plus the way defenses are playing us with 2 deep safeties. we run lots of crossing routes where speed is a huge advantage. Bring a FA in that already knows the system and can contribute immediately and is cheap, like Sammy Watkins who made $5M last year and will make less this year on a one year deal. 3 years of reps with mahomes helps. I don’t see this as lazy at all.
Posts: 2,341
kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2022, 12:12 AM   #11
kcbubb kcbubb is offline
Veteran
 

Join Date: Nov 2008
Casino cash: $6146719
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dante84 View Post
Yessir - Edge Round 1, Metchie Round 2 is a train that I am riding on.
Do y’all really think a de at the end of round 1 can come in and produce 10 sacks? Too risky. We need immediate production at de. DE is our biggest need. FA is the answer at DE.
Posts: 2,341
kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2022, 01:20 AM   #12
Couch-Potato Couch-Potato is offline
MVP
 
Couch-Potato's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2015
Casino cash: $3373065
Personally, I'd like to see both WR and ED addressed in FA + the draft. Say we nab JuJu on a 1-year deal, then Williams would be a perfect pick as he'd have a year to heal before he hits the limelight. I agree that it's hard to expect a rookie DE to come in and put up 10 sacks, so we should look for that production from a vet because there are several quality/affordible options and develop a younger guy.

How about...

Move on from Clark, nab JuJu + Clowney, & bring back Ingram...
+
1. WR Williams, Bama
2. DE/OLB Bonito, OU

Williams heals up then replaces JuJu after a 1-year prove-it deal, and Bonito gets reps 1st year as a pass rushing specialist on 3rd down.

Last edited by Couch-Potato; 02-19-2022 at 06:42 AM..
Posts: 5,917
Couch-Potato has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Couch-Potato has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Couch-Potato has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Couch-Potato has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Couch-Potato has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Couch-Potato has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Couch-Potato has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Couch-Potato has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Couch-Potato has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Couch-Potato has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Couch-Potato has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2022, 09:36 AM   #13
kcbubb kcbubb is offline
Veteran
 

Join Date: Nov 2008
Casino cash: $6146719
Quote:
Originally Posted by Couch-Potato View Post
Say we nab JuJu on a 1-year deal, then Williams would be a perfect pick as he'd have a year to heal before he hits the limelight.
Is juju going to be able to pick up the system quickly? Will mahomes be able to trust him? Mahomes needs guys he can trust. You can almost feel it in the game. He has such a trust for kelce and Hill. I doubt he will be able to trust a wr like juju or other fa that come in from a different system quickly. Mahomes needs that confidence to trust his wrs.
Posts: 2,341
kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2022, 09:44 AM   #14
htismaqe htismaqe is offline
'Tis my eye!
 
htismaqe's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Chiefsplanet
Casino cash: $10269900
Quote:
Originally Posted by kcbubb View Post
Is juju going to be able to pick up the system quickly? Will mahomes be able to trust him? Mahomes needs guys he can trust. You can almost feel it in the game. He has such a trust for kelce and Hill. I doubt he will be able to trust a wr like juju or other fa that come in from a different system quickly. Mahomes needs that confidence to trust his wrs.
You see to be saying we need immediate impact at WR while simultaneously advocating for drafting a WR.

Those two things are almost mutually exclusive. There's a much, much greater chance a FA WR can play right away than a rookie in this offense. Not to mention the fact that the WR in this scenario is a guy that won't even be healthy to start the season.

Drafted defensive players have a much better chance of playing right away. A drafted DE would play long before a drafted WR, given how this team is constructed.

The best answer is to pursue one or more WR's in free agency and focus on defense in the draft. That doesn't preclude acquiring free agent defenders but drafting a WR would be tantamount to wasting a 1st round pick, at least for 2022.
Posts: 100,022
htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2022, 10:09 AM   #15
kcbubb kcbubb is offline
Veteran
 

Join Date: Nov 2008
Casino cash: $6146719
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe View Post
You see to be saying we need immediate impact at WR while simultaneously advocating for drafting a WR.

Those two things are almost mutually exclusive. There's a much, much greater chance a FA WR can play right away than a rookie in this offense. Not to mention the fact that the WR in this scenario is a guy that won't even be healthy to start the season.

Drafted defensive players have a much better chance of playing right away. A drafted DE would play long before a drafted WR, given how this team is constructed.

The best answer is to pursue one or more WR's in free agency and focus on defense in the draft. That doesn't preclude acquiring free agent defenders but drafting a WR would be tantamount to wasting a 1st round pick, at least for 2022.
I’d draft Jameson in the first and sign Sammy Watkins to a 1 year deal for $4M. Most of the other FA won’t know the system and won’t have pats trust. Do both. Get a stop gap that’s better than drob and Pringle and draft the future. Then spend your money on de. And draft defense in the rest with developmental guys.
Posts: 2,341
kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.
    Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:51 PM.


This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.