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oaklandhater · 11-30-2016, 03:17 PM

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Hot Seat Index: NFL coaches in danger, or safer than you think

We're nearly three-quarters of the way through the 2016 NFL season, and?we have a good picture of which teams have exceeded expectations and which teams are coming up short. For the latter, that means head coaches are going to get fired.

With five more weeks of the season remaining, here's an inside look at which coaches could be on the way out after the season -- and which are likely to stick around -- based on?discussions with several personnel executives around the league.

Squarely on the hot seat

Gus Bradley, Jacksonville Jaguars

This was supposed to be the season in which the Jaguars took the leap forward. They spent big money in free agency, and from talking to sources with other teams, personnel executives said they thought this was a talented, young roster. Instead, the Jaguars are 2-9 in Bradley's fourth season, and they have?come up short of expectations.?The Jags are guaranteed to finish with a record at .500 or under for the ninth straight season.

While a team source said Bradley's situation will be reviewed after the season, he has compiled a career record of 14-45 in Jacksonville.

After last season, the team extended Bradley's contract through the 2017 season in order to give him a better chance at succeeding; it planned to make several roster upgrades, which the front office has clearly done. And while it's obvious the roster is more talented than when Bradley took over in 2013, the team has significantly underachieved this season. That doesn't bode well for Bradley's future.

Warming up

Marvin Lewis, Cincinnati Bengals
The Bengals are almost certain to miss the playoffs for the first time since 2010. So what has happened to this team?

From talking to a team source, the roster, especially on the defensive side of the ball, has gotten really old and needs an infusion of younger and more athletic players. While the team feels good about its deep and talented secondary, more talent needs to be added to the front seven, the source added. And on offense, the Bengals have yet to adequately replace former starting receiver? Marvin Jones, who signed with the Lions in free agency.

So, what about the future of Lewis, whose contract expires after 2017?

Lewis has a larger say in the roster than he did when he landed the job in 2003, but owner Mike Brown still picks the players. And it's no secret in league circles that Brown does not like paying coaches who are not working with the Bengals. While Lewis, who is 115-101-3 in 14 years as Cincinnati's coach, has done a terrific job of turning around the team since he took over, he still has not won a playoff game. That is why he'll remain on the hot seat -- at least until Brown goes on the record and says the veteran coach will be back for another season.

Jeff Fisher, Los Angeles Rams

In the preseason edition of the Hot Seat Index, we didn't have Fisher on the hot seat because sources said he was close to signing a new deal with the Rams. In fact, some sources believed the team would announce his new contract after it got off to a surprising 3-1 start. But since then, the Rams are?1-6, and there have been no updates from the team regarding Fisher's contract situation. His contract expires after this season.

With the team a near lock to finish with a non-winning season for the 13th straight year and Fisher's eighth straight as a coach, he'll remain on the hot seat until the Rams announce a decision on his future. He's 31-43-1 in five years with the franchise.

Mike McCoy, San Diego Chargers

Sources from other teams maintain the Chargers are still very competitive despite a 5-6 record. And San Diego has?16 players on injured reserve, which is among the highest in the league.

But because the team has finished no higher than third in the AFC West during McCoy's previous three seasons and finished 4-12 in 2015, questions still remain?about his future. And the team has not said he'll be back for sure next season. He signed a one-year extension through 2017 at the end of last season. After 9-7 seasons in his first two years as coach, McCoy is 9-18 since.

Colder than you think

Mike McCarthy, Green Bay Packers

For the first time in many years, the veteran coach is receiving criticism from some personnel sources I've spoken to across the NFL. A few of them have mentioned that McCarthy needs to be more creative with his offense in order to help quarterback Aaron Rodgers, whose performance this season has been disappointing compared to previous seasons.

But should McCarthy, who has put together seven straight playoff appearances, including one Super Bowl title, and is 109-61-1, really be mentioned as potentially on the hot seat?

One long-tenured NFL personnel source said that while McCarthy deserves some criticism for the team's 5-6 record, it's hardly a reason to suggest the veteran coach should be concerned about his job security.

"I think what you're hearing is more media-driven than anything else," the source said. "The team has fallen off this season, so it's open season on the coach. The reality is that other than [Patriots coach Bill] Belichick, show me another guy who hasn't had a down season."

Rex Ryan, Buffalo Bills
We had Ryan under the hot section before this season started. The reason was simple: Ryan had not posted a winning record in his previous five years as a head coach, and there was chatter around the NFL that he had trouble getting the most out of his players.

After 11 games this season, however, the 6-5 Bills are a competitive team despite injury issues on both sides of the ball. Owner Terry Pegula has preached continuity publicly and privately, a team source said. So don't look for anything to happen here.

john Fox, Chicago Bears

After doing slightly better than most personnel executives expected in his first season with a record of 6-10, the Bears have dropped off significantly this season under Fox, with a disappointing 2-9 record.

But there are reasons for the drop-off. The team will place its 15th player on injured reserve this week once it makes the expected move with linebacker? Danny Trevathan (knee). And keep in mind two key players are serving suspensions (wide receiver? Alshon Jeffery and inside linebacker? Jerrell Freeman).

As one team source said, there's simply no way to properly evaluate this team and the coaches with so many key players?out.

Chuck Pagano, Indianapolis Colts

Last November, we had Pagano leading the hot-seat section. He was in the final year of his contract, and he and general manager Ryan Grigson did not have a good working relationship. In fact, it was quite strained at that point, team sources said. Since then, both men had their contracts extended for four seasons and have formed a much better working relationship.

Owner Jim Irsay made it clear that he wanted what was the NFL's oldest roster to become significantly younger, and a team source said Grigson had to address the roster issues on the offensive line, which he did with three selections in the first five rounds of April's draft.

While the 5-6 Colts haven't significantly improved this season, they still are very much in the hunt for first place in the AFC South, and there are no indications Pagano is in jeopardy of losing his job one season after signing an extension. He's 46-29 in five seasons in Indianapolis.

Safe

Todd Bowles, New York Jets
In Bowles' first year with the Jets in 2015, a plugged-in team source felt the team exceeded expectations. The Jets posted a very respectable 10-6 record but did not make the playoffs. Because the team had such a solid record, however, expectations were raised for Bowles despite a roster that needed upgrading in more than a few areas.

Personnel executives from other teams who have watched the Jets' game tape this season pointed out to me that the team has gotten old on offense -- seven starters were at least 29 years old to start the season -- and they look slower on that side of the ball. And the defense, which Bowles still has a large hand in managing, has issues?in the secondary.

General manager Mike Maccagnan has a challenge on his hands, and he has control of the personnel, a team source confirmed. The Jets' issues this season largely are due to having an incomplete roster, and Bowles, who is in the second year of a four-year deal, should not take the blame, even with New York at 3-8.

oaklandhater · 12-07-2016, 10:58 PM

Five years after hiring Jeff Fisher, the Rams now rank 32nd in points, 32nd in yards, and 32nd in first downs https://t.co/9bLIZHD0jN
— Football Perspective (@fbgchase) December 7, 2016

Holy hell are the rams bad.

Pasta Little Brioni · 12-08-2016, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Geez.. Fisher gets a 2 year extension in LA. What the hell?

But but but he's "been through" a relocation before. Like that neans jack shit.

**jjchieffan** · 12-28-2016, 12:13 PM

The season isn't over yet and already 3 head coaches fires. This article thought that Rex Ryan was relatively safe, I guess not. Who else gets fired on Monday? McCoy and Lewis for sure I would think?

**Buehler445** · 12-28-2016, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan

The season isn't over yet and already 3 head coaches fires. This article thought that Rex Ryan was relatively safe, I guess not. Who else gets fired on Monday? McCoy and Lewis for sure I would think?

Who's out besides Ryan and Bradley?

Bowles about has to be done there right?

Pagano is about done right?

**Buehler445** · 12-28-2016, 12:31 PM

I've heard a lot of jabber about Ariens too.

CaliforniaChief · 12-28-2016, 12:35 PM

My guess is that Bowles stays.

I think the guys who get fired are:
Marvin Lewis, Mike McCoy, and John Fox. But then again, aren't 6-7 fired every year?

**jjchieffan** · 12-28-2016, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

Who's out besides Ryan and Bradley?

Bowles about has to be done there right?

Pagano is about done right?

Fisher was already fired too.

I would agree that Pagano will likely be gone. The Colts need a new GM more though. The Colts are piss poor at acquiring talent. And I don't knoq about Bowles. He might get a pass due to Fitzpatrick being so awful this year, but I could certainly see him being gone too.

jspchief · 12-28-2016, 12:41 PM

Pagano should be. Marvin Lewis should be. Bowles wouldn't be a surprise. McCoy obviously.

**jjchieffan** · 12-28-2016, 12:54 PM

Did Clay's latest mult get banned? I was expecting to see a Smasher post in here saying Reid should be on the hot seat.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 12-28-2016, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan

Did Clay's latest mult get banned? I was expecting to see a Smasher post in here saying Reid should be on the hot seat.

There's no such thing as a "hot seat" in KC.

**Buehler445** · 12-28-2016, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan

Fisher was already fired too.

I would agree that Pagano will likely be gone. The Colts need a new GM more though. The Colts are piss poor at acquiring talent. And I don't knoq about Bowles. He might get a pass due to Fitzpatrick being so awful this year, but I could certainly see him being gone too.

Doh. How did I forget about capt 7-9

**jjchieffan** · 12-28-2016, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagnabit

There's no such thing as a "hot seat" in KC.

Not when the coach has averaged 10 plus wins per season for the past 4 years. But I know, you think that we should get rid of the guy that has more wins the past 4 years than any coach in the league and a top 10 winningest coach of all time because he gets too conservative with a lead and doesn't stretch the field enough. Well, I think his record speaks for itself. I bet that you were one the guys supporting San Diego when they fired Schottenheimer after a 14-2 season and hired Norv Turner to take his place. That worked out well for them now didn't it? San Diego went full reerun. Don't ever go full reerun.

NJChiefsFan · 12-28-2016, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

Doh. How did I forget about capt 7-9

Fisher said he wasn't going to coach another ****ing 7-9, 8-8, or 9-7 season this year. Gotta give him credit, he kept his word.

ScareCrowe · 12-28-2016, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

Fisher said he wasn't going to coach another ****ing 7-9, 8-8, or 9-7 season this year. Gotta give him credit, he kept his word.

LOL yes he did.

I will have to eat a little crow on that one, I was surprised they actually did it. But it got absolutely embarrassing there at the end.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 12-28-2016, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan

Not when the coach has averaged 10 plus wins per season for the past 4 years. But I know, you think that we should get rid of the guy that has more wins the past 4 years than any coach in the league and a top 10 winningest coach of all time because he gets too conservative with a lead and doesn't stretch the field enough. Well, I think his record speaks for itself. I bet that you were one the guys supporting San Diego when they fired Schottenheimer after a 14-2 season and hired Norv Turner to take his place. That worked out well for them now didn't it? San Diego went full reerun. Don't ever go full reerun.

Oh I'm sorry, I should have clarified:

That was a historical context post.

But thanks for playing and really going all-out in your Reid defense!

11-30-2016, 03:17 PM
oaklandhater future chiefs fans Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: oakland california Casino cash: $7628993	Hot Seat Index: NFL coaches in danger, or safer than you think http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/hot-sea...ry?id=43856245 Hot Seat Index: NFL coaches in danger, or safer than you think We're nearly three-quarters of the way through the 2016 NFL season, and?we have a good picture of which teams have exceeded expectations and which teams are coming up short. For the latter, that means head coaches are going to get fired. With five more weeks of the season remaining, here's an inside look at which coaches could be on the way out after the season -- and which are likely to stick around -- based on?discussions with several personnel executives around the league. Squarely on the hot seat Gus Bradley, Jacksonville Jaguars This was supposed to be the season in which the Jaguars took the leap forward. They spent big money in free agency, and from talking to sources with other teams, personnel executives said they thought this was a talented, young roster. Instead, the Jaguars are 2-9 in Bradley's fourth season, and they have?come up short of expectations.?The Jags are guaranteed to finish with a record at .500 or under for the ninth straight season. While a team source said Bradley's situation will be reviewed after the season, he has compiled a career record of 14-45 in Jacksonville. After last season, the team extended Bradley's contract through the 2017 season in order to give him a better chance at succeeding; it planned to make several roster upgrades, which the front office has clearly done. And while it's obvious the roster is more talented than when Bradley took over in 2013, the team has significantly underachieved this season. That doesn't bode well for Bradley's future. Warming up Marvin Lewis, Cincinnati Bengals The Bengals are almost certain to miss the playoffs for the first time since 2010. So what has happened to this team? From talking to a team source, the roster, especially on the defensive side of the ball, has gotten really old and needs an infusion of younger and more athletic players. While the team feels good about its deep and talented secondary, more talent needs to be added to the front seven, the source added. And on offense, the Bengals have yet to adequately replace former starting receiver? Marvin Jones, who signed with the Lions in free agency. So, what about the future of Lewis, whose contract expires after 2017? Lewis has a larger say in the roster than he did when he landed the job in 2003, but owner Mike Brown still picks the players. And it's no secret in league circles that Brown does not like paying coaches who are not working with the Bengals. While Lewis, who is 115-101-3 in 14 years as Cincinnati's coach, has done a terrific job of turning around the team since he took over, he still has not won a playoff game. That is why he'll remain on the hot seat -- at least until Brown goes on the record and says the veteran coach will be back for another season. Jeff Fisher, Los Angeles Rams In the preseason edition of the Hot Seat Index, we didn't have Fisher on the hot seat because sources said he was close to signing a new deal with the Rams. In fact, some sources believed the team would announce his new contract after it got off to a surprising 3-1 start. But since then, the Rams are?1-6, and there have been no updates from the team regarding Fisher's contract situation. His contract expires after this season. With the team a near lock to finish with a non-winning season for the 13th straight year and Fisher's eighth straight as a coach, he'll remain on the hot seat until the Rams announce a decision on his future. He's 31-43-1 in five years with the franchise. Mike McCoy, San Diego Chargers Sources from other teams maintain the Chargers are still very competitive despite a 5-6 record. And San Diego has?16 players on injured reserve, which is among the highest in the league. But because the team has finished no higher than third in the AFC West during McCoy's previous three seasons and finished 4-12 in 2015, questions still remain?about his future. And the team has not said he'll be back for sure next season. He signed a one-year extension through 2017 at the end of last season. After 9-7 seasons in his first two years as coach, McCoy is 9-18 since. Colder than you think Mike McCarthy, Green Bay Packers For the first time in many years, the veteran coach is receiving criticism from some personnel sources I've spoken to across the NFL. A few of them have mentioned that McCarthy needs to be more creative with his offense in order to help quarterback Aaron Rodgers, whose performance this season has been disappointing compared to previous seasons. But should McCarthy, who has put together seven straight playoff appearances, including one Super Bowl title, and is 109-61-1, really be mentioned as potentially on the hot seat? One long-tenured NFL personnel source said that while McCarthy deserves some criticism for the team's 5-6 record, it's hardly a reason to suggest the veteran coach should be concerned about his job security. "I think what you're hearing is more media-driven than anything else," the source said. "The team has fallen off this season, so it's open season on the coach. The reality is that other than [Patriots coach Bill] Belichick, show me another guy who hasn't had a down season." Rex Ryan, Buffalo Bills We had Ryan under the hot section before this season started. The reason was simple: Ryan had not posted a winning record in his previous five years as a head coach, and there was chatter around the NFL that he had trouble getting the most out of his players. After 11 games this season, however, the 6-5 Bills are a competitive team despite injury issues on both sides of the ball. Owner Terry Pegula has preached continuity publicly and privately, a team source said. So don't look for anything to happen here. john Fox, Chicago Bears After doing slightly better than most personnel executives expected in his first season with a record of 6-10, the Bears have dropped off significantly this season under Fox, with a disappointing 2-9 record. But there are reasons for the drop-off. The team will place its 15th player on injured reserve this week once it makes the expected move with linebacker? Danny Trevathan (knee). And keep in mind two key players are serving suspensions (wide receiver? Alshon Jeffery and inside linebacker? Jerrell Freeman). As one team source said, there's simply no way to properly evaluate this team and the coaches with so many key players?out. Chuck Pagano, Indianapolis Colts Last November, we had Pagano leading the hot-seat section. He was in the final year of his contract, and he and general manager Ryan Grigson did not have a good working relationship. In fact, it was quite strained at that point, team sources said. Since then, both men had their contracts extended for four seasons and have formed a much better working relationship. Owner Jim Irsay made it clear that he wanted what was the NFL's oldest roster to become significantly younger, and a team source said Grigson had to address the roster issues on the offensive line, which he did with three selections in the first five rounds of April's draft. While the 5-6 Colts haven't significantly improved this season, they still are very much in the hunt for first place in the AFC South, and there are no indications Pagano is in jeopardy of losing his job one season after signing an extension. He's 46-29 in five seasons in Indianapolis. Safe Todd Bowles, New York Jets In Bowles' first year with the Jets in 2015, a plugged-in team source felt the team exceeded expectations. The Jets posted a very respectable 10-6 record but did not make the playoffs. Because the team had such a solid record, however, expectations were raised for Bowles despite a roster that needed upgrading in more than a few areas. Personnel executives from other teams who have watched the Jets' game tape this season pointed out to me that the team has gotten old on offense -- seven starters were at least 29 years old to start the season -- and they look slower on that side of the ball. And the defense, which Bowles still has a large hand in managing, has issues?in the secondary. General manager Mike Maccagnan has a challenge on his hands, and he has control of the personnel, a team source confirmed. The Jets' issues this season largely are due to having an incomplete roster, and Bowles, who is in the second year of a four-year deal, should not take the blame, even with New York at 3-8.
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