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Old 05-29-2016, 07:37 AM  
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Planting trees

So let's hear about the trees you have planted. Shade? Fruit bearing? Decorative?

How are they doing?

My wife says I have an obsession with them and probably do.

Now that we are in our last home here at the lake, I am having fun with it. Here is my list.

14 Colorado Blue Spruce
1 Loblolly pine
2 plum
2 peach
1 pear
1 cherry
1 Brown turkey fig
1 Chicago fig

What you got?
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Old 05-29-2016, 09:05 PM   #61
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Old 05-29-2016, 09:08 PM   #62
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That is all good information, thanks. I had the man from the extension service come out and look at it, and he said he stuck by his opinion. He ended up taking pictures, as he knew he may be called to a court some day.

He was a very nice man, seemed knowledgeable and I learned a few other things from him.

I agree on the survey, even though there are metal stakes in the ground. I plan on doing it this fall as I don't want to mess with any of it now since it is all so grown over again.

My lawyer said if I were to remove a tree that isn't mine, it could get real expensive. Now this same old man cut his neighbors trees down across the street from him and told them he thought it looked better. He also removed the trees on his side of the pond as the old satellite property pictures shows them being there.

The real issue is that he just wants to stop me from doing what I want to do. Even his wife said "you always want things your way." Crazy me, wanting my property the way I want it!

This old fart is well connected in the Shriner and Church circles, so I am not sure how much of that I am running into. The first lawyer I talked to had a conflict, and told me so.


Thanks for the help!
someone probably told him he could be ****ing up the dam when he cut his side.
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Old 05-29-2016, 09:23 PM   #63
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[QUOTE=HemiEd;12252512]That is all good information, thanks. I had the man from the extension service come out and look at it, and he said he stuck by his opinion. He ended up taking pictures, as he knew he may be called to a court some day.

He was a very nice man, seemed knowledgeable and I learned a few other things from him.

I agree on the survey, even though there are metal stakes in the ground. I plan on doing it this fall as I don't want to mess with any of it now since it is all so grown over again.

My lawyer said if I were to remove a tree that isn't mine, it could get real expensive. Now this same old man cut his neighbors trees down across the street from him and told them he thought it looked better. He also removed the trees on his side of the pond as the old satellite property pictures shows them being there.

The real issue is that he just wants to stop me from doing what I want to do. Even his wife said "you always want things your way." Crazy me, wanting my property the way I want it!

This old fart is well connected in the Shriner and Church circles, so I am not sure how much of that I am running into. The first lawyer I talked to had a conflict, and told me so.


Thanks for the help![/QUOTE

**** people. Seriously.

I don't know what all goes into damn management. Is it an Army Corps of engineers dam or a local one?
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Old 05-30-2016, 02:17 AM   #64
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This old bastard retired in 97, but is no longer relevant down here, things have changed.

Dad warned me to stay out of it, but it was too late.

The worst part, we are on a shared well together.

I had marked 32 cedar trees with a red x to be removed, all on my property. Some were on my side of the neighbors dam from an old farm pond.

He had his lawyer write me a letter that the extension service said the dam would deteriorate when the roots rotted once cut down. I would be liable for the dam and damage.

My lawyer said I am in the right, but it will cost me about $10,000 for the due process.

I have tried and tried to get along with this old asshole, but finally threw him off my property.
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Old 05-30-2016, 05:46 AM   #65
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There is evidence that you have done it at least once!

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**** people. Seriously.

I don't know what all goes into damn management. Is it an Army Corps of engineers dam or a local one?
It is a little cattle pond dam. Maybe 60 feet across. The pond leaks down fairly rapidly and keeps our place pretty wet in areas below it.

In the spring, the frogs will drive you crazy with their noise.

I understand Tablerock was flooded/made in 1954 and the evidence I have found on our place would indicate this was cow pasture at one time. I have removed a lot of barbed wire, some is grown into trees as are some old fence posts.
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Old 05-30-2016, 10:27 AM   #66
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Chinese pistache ftw! Drought tolerant, fast growers, and they are pretty in the fall.

As mentioned earlier in the thread, don't skimp on your hole. If in doubt, go extra big and get good quality fill dirt. If you can't dig an adequate hole yourself, don't skimp. Get someone out with jackhammer and auger attachments. Also, planting in the winter is the best because the tree isn't shocked because it's already dormant.
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Old 05-30-2016, 10:32 AM   #67
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There is evidence that you have done it at least once!

It is a little cattle pond dam. Maybe 60 feet across. The pond leaks down fairly rapidly and keeps our place pretty wet in areas below it.

In the spring, the frogs will drive you crazy with their noise.

I understand Tablerock was flooded/made in 1954 and the evidence I have found on our place would indicate this was cow pasture at one time. I have removed a lot of barbed wire, some is grown into trees as are some old fence posts.
Virtually everything west of the Mississippi was cow pasture at one point, but it sounds to me like this dude is looking for someone to pay for renovations to his pond. You might try and be neighborly and see if you can plant some other kind of tree on the sidehills and in a couple years take out the cedars. Since he started the lawyering, you probably better have him sign something that indemnifies you after the tree planting, but if you can get a tree you like there, and keep his dumbass happy, it would be money better spent than a damned lawyer. And if the pond is leaking down some, there should be water available for the trees you plant.
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Old 05-30-2016, 10:41 AM   #68
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I forgot to include the 20 poplar trees that are to be a curtain between us and a hated neighbor.
You will regret those populars Hemi. Yes they grow fast and yes they provide a big quick curtain BUT they don't live long, maybe 15yrs and their root system ruins your yard. I made that mistake. Maybe you get lucky and I hope you do but anybody I have ever talked to that had populars cusses them to no end like I still do. Good luck.
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I've found that when planting pretty young trees and shrubs, when I used this stuff called Myke, it really made a difference when compared to the ones I didn't use it on. the local green house guy put me on to it and it seems to really work.

We've put out a couple cherry trees, a peach tree, numerous shrubs, Japanese red maple, transplanted pecans, Russian olives, and a bunch of others.
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Virtually everything west of the Mississippi was cow pasture at one point, but it sounds to me like this dude is looking for someone to pay for renovations to his pond. You might try and be neighborly and see if you can plant some other kind of tree on the sidehills and in a couple years take out the cedars. Since he started the lawyering, you probably better have him sign something that indemnifies you after the tree planting, but if you can get a tree you like there, and keep his dumbass happy, it would be money better spent than a damned lawyer. And if the pond is leaking down some, there should be water available for the trees you plant.
No, he really isn't looking for renovations, they just don't want change. They were horribly upset when I built a 30x50 boat house that changed their view and really mad when one of the other neighbors built his.

I have turned the other cheek so many times with these assholes I am done with them.

Also, it is so thick, inbred and overgrown on the dam there is no room to plant anything. That is one of the main reasons I wanted to clean it up along with the ability to see the huge sycamore that is on our property but pretty much blocked out.


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You will regret those populars Hemi. Yes they grow fast and yes they provide a big quick curtain BUT they don't live long, maybe 15yrs and their root system ruins your yard. I made that mistake. Maybe you get lucky and I hope you do but anybody I have ever talked to that had populars cusses them to no end like I still do. Good luck.
This variety is supposed to live longer, but even at 15, it will serve our purpose greatly. I will be 81 and he should be dead!
I planted them in an area that will not matter about the yard. It is about a 40 long by 6 foot wide area I left along the property line when I had the retaining walls poured for our parking area.


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I've found that when planting pretty young trees and shrubs, when I used this stuff called Myke, it really made a difference when compared to the ones I didn't use it on. the local green house guy put me on to it and it seems to really work.

We've put out a couple cherry trees, a peach tree, numerous shrubs, Japanese red maple, transplanted pecans, Russian olives, and a bunch of others.
Thanks, I will check into some of that Myke. A Japanese red Maple is in my cross hairs next, this fall. Sam.s had some really large ones last week for only $54 but I think it is a little late.
Our second SIL has a pecan ranch down in Texas and sent me a dozen seedlings, but they just didn't like this soil I guess. They died right away.
I am intrigued by your Russian olives. Pictures?
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Old 05-30-2016, 12:19 PM   #71
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No, he really isn't looking for renovations, they just don't want change. They were horribly upset when I built a 30x50 boat house that changed their view and really mad when one of the other neighbors built his.

I have turned the other cheek so many times with these assholes I am done with them.

Also, it is so thick, inbred and overgrown on the dam there is no room to plant anything. That is one of the main reasons I wanted to clean it up along with the ability to see the huge sycamore that is on our property but pretty much blocked out
It has just been my experience that the terms lined out in the "or else." Part of the letter is usually what the dickhead wants.

If you get Russian Olives make sure they don't have spikes. We've ruined several mower tires and cut ourselves to shit trying to get them mowed up.
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Have any of you tried splicing different fruit trees together? My ex mil in Philly spliced an apple and a pear tree together. It grew fine. Had apples on one side and pears on the other. The apples tasted pretty much like apples but the pears tasted like a pear/apple mix.
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Have any of you tried splicing different fruit trees together? My ex mil in Philly spliced an apple and a pear tree together. It grew fine. Had apples on one side and pears on the other. The apples tasted pretty much like apples but the pears tasted like a pear/apple mix.
My SIL has grafted Pecan trees to end up with huge pecans that have a very thin paper type shell.

Someone else the other day was telling me about a fruit tree with several kinds of grafts that allowed them to grow a variety in a small space. Sounded very interesting.
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HemiEd, how the trees doing?

I picked some beautiful limes off the tree today. My first usable ones since we planted it 2 years ago. After this tree almost died this spring, it's been looking great, growing new shoots and very dark green leaves.

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