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Old 02-15-2018, 05:53 PM  
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Sources: College hoops corruption case poised to take down top College BB Teams

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Sources: College hoops corruption case poised to take down Hall of Fame coaches, top programs, lottery picks

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NEW YORK – It has been five months since the FBI arrested 10 men in a sweeping federal probe into the underbelly of the basketball world. As the three ongoing criminal cases resulting from the investigation plod along, it’s increasingly unlikely there will be another wave of double-digit arrests.

More legal charges still could come, but what’s becoming increasingly clear as the discovery portion of the case comes to a close is that the breadth of potential NCAA rules violations uncovered is wide enough to fundamentally and indelibly alter the sport of college basketball.

The soundtrack to the three federal basketball corruption cases is essentially a ticking time bomb, which will inevitably explode. It will impact every major conference, Hall of Fame coaches, a score of current top players and some of the nation’s most distinguished and respected programs.

Multiple sources who’ve been briefed on the case and are familiar with the material obtained by feds told Yahoo Sports that the impact on the sport will be substantial and relentless. Sitting under protective order right now are the fruits of 330 days of monitoring activity by the feds, which one assistant US Attorney noted Thursday was “a voluminous amount of material.” That includes wiretaps from 4,000 intercepted calls and thousands of documents and bank records obtained from raids and confiscated computers, including those from notorious NBA agent Andy Miller.

“This goes a lot deeper in college basketball than four corrupt assistant coaches,” said a source who has been briefed on the details of the case. “When this all comes out, Hall of Fame coaches should be scared, lottery picks won’t be eligible to play and almost half of the 16 teams the NCAA showed on its initial NCAA tournament show this weekend should worry about their appearance being vacated.”

There’s a general expectation that this information will be released. It could come in trial, pre-trial motions or released by the government at some point. (No one is certain if they’ve agreed to eventually give it to the NCAA if it doesn’t go public.)

So how bad could be it? In terms of NCAA rules, multiple sources told Yahoo Sports that the material obtained threatens the fundamental structure and integrity of the sport, as there’s potentially as many 50 college basketball programs that could end up compromised in some way.
Among the documents expected to be in the federal government’s protection are the bank records of Miller, who bankrolled middle man, Christian Dawkins, who is at the center of two of the cases.

“If the NCAA is going to get Andy Miller’s bank records, God bless them, I don’t know what they’re going to do,” said another source with direct knowledge of the situation, chuckling at the thought. “You are better off changing the rules. The crazy part of this business is none of the kids are free.”

NCAA officials are staring at the prospect of a tournament with a winner that will likely be vacating its title – and many others eventually vacating their appearances. There’s a lingering mushroom cloud over the sport’s upcoming showcase event that won’t go away. The most fascinating and tricky variable here is time.

There’s a protective order on the evidence found in discovery in all three cases. Whether the information gets out in dribs and drabs or released at once, the consequences are expected to be severe.

The government is not compelled to release the information, according to Daniel Richman, a former federal prosecutor in the Southern District of New York who now teaches at Columbia Law School. “Sometimes never,” he said when asked generally about the timing of the release of information under protective order. He added: “The main sources of release will be in the course of pretrial motions and trial, and/or as related investigations go overt.”
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Old 02-16-2018, 01:49 PM   #31
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Bill Self going to win the national title this year once all the cheaters are required to vacate their tournament appearances this year
What if KU is involved?
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Old 02-16-2018, 01:52 PM   #32
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Old 02-16-2018, 01:54 PM   #33
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Bill Self going to win the national title this year once all the cheaters are required to vacate their tournament appearances this year
You realize they are involved, right? You can't have your head in the sand that much...
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Old 02-16-2018, 02:14 PM   #34
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Explain to us how they are I can't wait to hear your insider info.


Almost as dumb as that guy complaining about carrying the ball. I thought all those people died already.
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Old 02-16-2018, 02:21 PM   #35
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I can just see all the Missouri fans refreshing this thread incessantly waiting to hear how KU is involved in all of this.
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Old 02-16-2018, 02:23 PM   #36
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I can just see all the Missouri fans refreshing this thread incessantly waiting to hear how KU is involved in all of this.
Just like all the Kansas fans dreading every refresh.
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Old 02-16-2018, 02:24 PM   #37
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You realize they are involved, right? You can't have your head in the sand that much...
Couldn’t find any KU info. in many articles. Link?
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Old 02-16-2018, 02:25 PM   #38
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I think you shouldn't hold your breath since there isn't any kind of timetable on these findings and they may never release them at all.
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Old 02-16-2018, 03:23 PM   #39
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Couldn’t find any KU info. in many articles. Link?
It was pretty clear in the article. Did you not read it?

Link.
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How would that work? Do they all get the same pay or would better players get paid more? How would that work with title 9? Would women's basketball players get paid the same amount as the men? Do football players get paid the same amount as volleyball players? Do soccer players get paid? Serious questions. I'm wondering what people's thoughts are.
Of course they don't get paid the same. As part of the recruitment process, each coach can offer a recruit a salary based on what the market is.

I guess a school could offer a women's basketball player the same amount, don't see that happening.

And of course, expect the wannabes, small time programs to push for a socialist, salary cap with revenue sharing.

Players are on 2 year contracts and they don't have to sit out a year to switch school. Unless you get hit with the restricted free agent tag.
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College basketball and football are minor league professional sports played by minor league professional athletes in a billion dollar industry, except the schools and coaches get paid millions while the players get paid thousands.

It's time to call it what it is and get rid of this amateurism and non-profit status bullshit.
Might as well just end the entire thing if that happens. There is no way it ends well once it goes down that road. Just end college athletics altogether and have full-fledged minor league farm systems for each pro league.
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Just like all the Kansas fans dreading every refresh.
Nah. KU doesn't need to pay players. Mississippi State needs to pay players. Alabama needs to pay players. But it is always possible the shoe company paid players, without KU's direct knowledge. I can't really fault the school if that happens. That is between the player and the shoe company. Shoe company's fault.
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