Windows 10 can disable pirated games and illegal hardware

[Mr. Laz]

http://www.pcauthority.com.au/News/4...-hardware.aspx

Microsoft can disable your pirated games and illegal hardware
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Friday 14 August 2015 | Comment Now
Microsoft can disable your pirated games and illegal hardware
Updated EULA terms let Microsoft invade your Windows 10 computer in search of counterfeit software.

Microsoft's updated European Licence Agreement terms and conditions let it disable any counterfeit software or hardware and, if you're running a Windows 10 computer, you've just agreed to them.

Section 7b – or “Updates to the Services or Software, and Changes to These Terms” – of Microsoft's Services EULA stipulates that it “may automatically check your version of the software and download software update or configuration changes, including those that prevent you from accessing the Services, playing counterfeit games, or using unauthorised hardware peripheral devices.”

This means that, if you use Windows 10, a Windows phone, or any of Microsoft's other services, Redmond can disable any games you've pirated or devices you've unlawfully hacked.

While it's incredibly clear what Microsoft means by “counterfeit games”, the wording “unauthorised hardware peripheral devices” is a little hazy. Does this mean Microsoft can now block uncertified PC or illegally-modified Xbox One and Xbox 360 controllers? Furthermore, Microsoft's EULA doesn't state if it will also disable other counterfeit software, such as cracked versions of Office or Adobe Photoshop, or if it only cares about pirated games.

I've reached out to Microsoft for a comment about these unanswered questions and will update you when more information becomes available.

Video game piracy, or “counterfeit games” as Microsoft puts it, has been a big issue in PC gaming for a long time. Many developers have sought to circumvent it by hard-coding impossible odds into their games, which are only solved by having a purchased activation code on your computer. The same issue is also now becoming prevalent on Android and jailbroken iOS devices. However, under Microsoft's new EULA, Windows 10 Mobile would be able to combat any pirated software a user loads onto their phone – potentially making it an attractive prospect for indie developers scared of having their work stolen.

Interestingly, Microsoft killed off its incredibly unpopular, DRM-heavy, Windows Live Games in Windows 10, and opted to support Steam instead. But, with these new terms and conditions, Microsoft has practically baked DRM into the core of Windows 10.

This article originally appeared at alphr.com

[Fish]

Maybe to phrase it a different way... if you upgrade your computer to Win10, what actually changes regarding your network? Do you think upgrading your client PC changes how the network router works in any way? Would upgrading an individual PC change the router to then use Wifi-Sense capabilities and all of a sudden start communicating that data when it previously didn't? Does that really make sense?

[007]

Originally Posted by Fish

Well if you don't use Wifi-Sense, then there is zero chance of anyone else sharing your SSID network key without you giving it to them. Problem solved.

That is what I was saying. Your answers have been so wordy and confusing you had me doubting what I already knew.

[hometeam]

Originally Posted by Fish

No, there is not tons of info being sent to MS. That's not true. The license isn't extremely broad. The OS manufacturer has very specific limitations to personal data privacy, and it's not up to the manufacturer to decide at a whim what those limitations are. Because of federal HIPAA regulations alone, MS can't simply collect any type of data they want. And there are thousands of other such regulations drawn out and already in the books. What you're describing is just not how it works. The government cannot request anything they want because that kind of data collection is not legal or even possible, and if it were occurring it would be pretty easy to tell. The data they collect, if manually turned on, is innocuous. This isn't first draft anything. And to insinuate so is dumb. Microsoft cannot give any such data to the government because they cannot legally collect any such data to give. What they have access to is legally and publicly acknowledged and has been for some time, and cannot be changed simply because of a new OS. It's incredibly dumb to assert otherwise. Microsoft doesn't have access to every keystroke, and believing such a thing is irrational paranoia.

I'm not defending MS at all. I'm just pointing out that some type of data collection occurs with every single OS/device/app/browser you use. MS isn't doing anything any differently than any other major software company. And they're not really doing anything any differently than previous Windows OS versions even. You just clicked yes to the previous 50 EULAs without giving a single **** about any of this or reading a single line of any EULA you've ever accepted. You have no clue what you've accepted without reading.

You don't have to have a system administrator's knowledge of Windows to simply go through the custom install. Let's not act like that takes some kind of post 9 month ITT-Tech degree or anything to click on Custom Install.

Sharing your Netflix password punishable with jailtime? . WTFingF? . GTFO here with such nonsense......

That is EXACTLY what is in the TPP. Filesharing and copyright law is about to become a bigtime criminal act, not just a civil nuisance. Including but not limited too, letting your buddies use your HBO go password.

And no, windows 7 sends NO data on you to microsoft (unless you opt in to customer experience index with explicit consent). None, no telemetry.

AND YES, it DOES take someone with some know-how to get your win10 to stop reporting to microsoft.

TUrn off every privacy setting. Go ahead, ill wait.

Ok now see if your win10 stopped talking to microsoft. It didnt? Oh, wait but.. microsoft REALLY needs the OS to send information on what you are doing, where you are shopping, download updates that you dont need or want (for windows 'apps'.. which you have turned off) and more.

http://arstechnica.com/information-t...-to-microsoft/

Not only is it a privacy nightmare, but its a SECURITY nightmare as well. I cant fathom why anyone would want to give microsoft a free pass on this stupid, stupid, STUPID business model.

[hometeam]

What happens when somebody figures out how to set up a mobile router that takes advantage of wi-fi senses shitty design to deliver malware to any PC that connects to it?

'OMG TURN OFF WI FI SENSE'

yea well there are 50 million copies of win 10 out there. How many people wont becuase they dont know how, dont care, or think they need it?

Most of them.

You can come back to this thread later and see how right I am after people figure out security vulnerabilities and wreak some major havoc.. all because win10 wants to sell you ****in knick knacks and toilet paper and ipods.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by unlurking

This is what I've been trying to get to.

Guru may not use it, but if he allows a guest to connect that does use it that guest can then share the connection via WiFi Sense.

So yes, his comment about never letting anyone access his network was a valid one since he likely cannot control whether a guest uses WiFi Sense.

It's not about Guru using WiFi Sense. It is about other clients using WiFi Sense.

EDIT:
I'm going to crash. But for now I'm just going to assume that this post is correct. I don't know how many more times I can re-word the question.

Do the smart thing. Avoid the upgrade until Microsoft backs off with the nonsense. And don't believe the ridiculous comparisons to FF, et. al..

Problem solved.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Do the smart thing. Avoid the upgrade until Microsoft backs off with the nonsense. And don't believe the ridiculous comparisons to FF, et. al..

Problem solved.

This won't happen. Feel free to "avoid the upgrade," but it's not gonna change.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by hometeam

What happens when somebody figures out how to set up a mobile router that takes advantage of wi-fi senses shitty design to deliver malware to any PC that connects to it?

'OMG TURN OFF WI FI SENSE'

yea well there are 50 million copies of win 10 out there. How many people wont becuase they dont know how, dont care, or think they need it?

Most of them.

You can come back to this thread later and see how right I am after people figure out security vulnerabilities and wreak some major havoc.. all because win10 wants to sell you ****in knick knacks and toilet paper and ipods.

Sure, we'll come back here in a year or so and see how much major havoc has been wreaked by Win10's knick knack and toilet paper ad conspiracy. By that time, routers will probably be turning into Decepticons and shit too...

JFC...

[007]

Originally Posted by Fish

Microsoft doesn't care if your current Win7 is pirated or not. You're still entitled to a free upgrade. They've already stated that. You can install Win10 regardless of your current Win7 status. But if you are using a pirated version, and the key you used doesn't show as genuine, then Win10 will be put into a trial mode for 30 days.

But that really doesn't matter in the long run, as once Win10 is installed, trial mode or not, you can simply use Microsoft Toolkit 2.5.3 to then activate Windows again and life goes on. They want people to upgrade, and they will overlook a lot as long as you continue to run Windows OS.

can you lead me to a link that isn't laced with adware on this toolkit 2.5.3?

Every link I find has a shit ton of this crap.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Guru

can you lead me to a link that isn't laced with adware on this toolkit 2.5.3?

Every link I find has a shit ton of this crap.

https://mega.nz/#!OZE1wIqR!3SWmNd2mN...vQeWlM30qmsHmE

[007]

Thanks