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Old 09-22-2014, 11:16 PM  
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Is Aaron Rodgers GROSSLY overrated?

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I watched the entire GB/Det game and I must say...Rodgers has not gotten better at getting rid of the ball. He's got a lot of Alex Smith in him in that regard. He takes a TON of unnecessary sacks. It's bothersome. He also missed a wide open Jordy Nelson when trying to come back on 4th and 5 with a terrible pass 3 yards behind him in a clean pocket...

He's had 1 good playoff run. So has Joe Flacco.

Why does everyone think he's the best QB in the NFL?

I think he's top 5, certainly. But I also don't understand how Tony Romo is a choker, but Aaron Rodgers is not?

I have been grossly unimpressed with Rodgers this year...and in all honesty, the last few postseasons...super meh.

I've said this for a few years now, but...I'd take Russell Wilson over Aaron Rodgers and at this point, I don't even think it's close.

Also, Rodgers is nowhere near Peyton Manning (obvi) or IN HIS PRIME Tom Brady, let's be honest.
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Old 09-24-2014, 08:00 AM   #136
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Old 09-24-2014, 08:39 AM   #137
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and Peyton Manning gets all the grief in the world...

Aaron Rodgers is, and has proven to be, a much bigger "choker" than Peyton Manning yet no one wants to say it...

I'm here to ask why?
The reason Manning is considered a choker is because most of the PO losses result directly from him being a worse player in the playoffs than he is in the regular season.

Aaron Rogers has never led his offense to less than 20 points in a playoff game.

Of Peyton Manning's 12 playoff losses the offense has failed to score 20 points in 10 of those games. Three of those the offenses failed to score 10 points. One time he got his ass shut out. In almost every case the offense was loaded with talent at every offensive position.

That's why he's considered a 'choker'. Most playoff losses suffered by Manning's teams are a direct result of sub-par performances from the offense and Manning himself. It's not that he's a terrible playoff QB, it's that one can demonstrate that he's simply worse in the post season than he is in the regular season.
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Old 09-24-2014, 08:49 AM   #138
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Old 09-24-2014, 05:46 PM   #139
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Now Brees is overrated??

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You put Brees, or Rodgers in Seattle they may not lose a game till 2017.
Seriously?

Who are these mental cases saying Brees and Rodgers are overrated. What's next? Calvin Johnson and Jamaal Charles are overrated?
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Old 09-24-2014, 05:49 PM   #140
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The reason Manning is considered a choker is because most of the PO losses result directly from him being a worse player in the playoffs than he is in the regular season.

Aaron Rogers has never led his offense to less than 20 points in a playoff game.

Of Peyton Manning's 12 playoff losses the offense has failed to score 20 points in 10 of those games. Three of those the offenses failed to score 10 points. One time he got his ass shut out. In almost every case the offense was loaded with talent at every offensive position.

That's why he's considered a 'choker'. Most playoff losses suffered by Manning's teams are a direct result of sub-par performances from the offense and Manning himself. It's not that he's a terrible playoff QB, it's that one can demonstrate that he's simply worse in the post season than he is in the regular season.
Man, this myth of Brady and Manning being chokers in the playoffs is just absurd.

You are generally playing some of the best defenses in football in the playoffs. It is often an entirely different level of defense than you've seen all season and in the Super Bowl, it may be the best defense you've played all year.

As usual, people giving too much credit to the QB for wins and assigning too much blame for the QB for losses.

These elite QBs can put teams on their backs relative to the mere mortals like Alex. It doesn't mean they can turn water to wine.
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Old 09-24-2014, 05:54 PM   #141
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Now Brees is overrated??

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You put Brees, or Rodgers in Seattle they may not lose a game till 2017.
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Old 09-24-2014, 05:56 PM   #142
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Boo ****ing hoo.

Things don't go my way, so I become a Snarky bitch and a ****ing wet Blanket for the entire forum.
Now, now. Your team is the Chiefs. I'd develop an even broader sense of humor and hang on to that bitch.

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Old 09-24-2014, 05:58 PM   #143
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Old 09-24-2014, 06:40 PM   #144
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Man, this myth of Brady and Manning being chokers in the playoffs is just absurd.

You are generally playing some of the best defenses in football in the playoffs. It is often an entirely different level of defense than you've seen all season and in the Super Bowl, it may be the best defense you've played all year.

As usual, people giving too much credit to the QB for wins and assigning too much blame for the QB for losses.

These elite QBs can put teams on their backs relative to the mere mortals like Alex. It doesn't mean they can turn water to wine.
There isn't a single great QB who has failed to deliver when it matters most than Peyton Manning.

That, my dumbass friend, is choking
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Old 09-24-2014, 07:12 PM   #145
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Old 09-24-2014, 09:41 PM   #146
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JFC, why does every single QB evaluation have to bring it back to Alex Smith?

I don't think Hootie talking about Rodgers has ANYTHING to do with Alex Smith. Saying Aaron Rodgers is overrated doesn't somehow put Alex Smith on even close to the same level. Even if Aaron Rodgers is overrated, think everyone would agree he's still in the elite tier whereas Alex Smith is in a lower tier (I'd put him as third tier, and his fans would put him in the second tier). In either case, Rodgers is still in a higher tier than Smith.

No matter how accurate he is and how strong his arm is, his record of closing games is still unbelievably stunningly low in comparison to other elite QBs.
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Old 09-24-2014, 10:49 PM   #147
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JFC, why does every single QB evaluation have to bring it back to Alex Smith?

I don't think Hootie talking about Rodgers has ANYTHING to do with Alex Smith. Saying Aaron Rodgers is overrated doesn't somehow put Alex Smith on even close to the same level. Even if Aaron Rodgers is overrated, think everyone would agree he's still in the elite tier whereas Alex Smith is in a lower tier (I'd put him as third tier, and his fans would put him in the second tier). In either case, Rodgers is still in a higher tier than Smith.

No matter how accurate he is and how strong his arm is, his record of closing games is still unbelievably stunningly low in comparison to other elite QBs.
Translation: Aaron Rodgers is great for Fantasy Football, not the best when you actually need to win a game.

To be honest, ever since he got paid, games where he looks erratic as a passer have increased in number. I haven't seen him consistently make the same throws to Jordy Nelson that he used to be money on before he turned 30 (going to be 31 this year).

In back to back playoff appearances, Rodgers has missed multiple throws that he would typically make during the regular season. He used to be able to routinely drop the ball into the hands of his receiver on back-shoulder passes, even with a DB playing pretty tight coverage. I haven't seen him making those throws anywhere near as consistently as he did just a couple of years ago.
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Old 09-25-2014, 06:39 AM   #148
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He pretty overrated, Packers should just cut the dead weight now, Maybe we can trade Chase Daniel for Rodgers?
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Old 09-25-2014, 07:03 AM   #149
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Its still a long season. Plenty of time for all quarterbacks to show their value.
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Its still a long season. Plenty of time for all quarterbacks to show their value.
And in some cases, the complete lack thereof.
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