NFL Draft Clowney Pro Day today - Page 2

Deberg_1990 · 04-02-2014, 08:28 AM

Disgust......

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/201...l#.UzweJie9KSM

The masses will descend on Columbia on Wednesday morning to see whether former South Carolina defensive end Jadeveon Clowney can whip through agility drills the way he beat SEC pass-blockers for most of his three seasons with the Gamecocks.

Clowney, who prepped for South Carolina’s pro day at a south Charlotte training facility, seems confident he’ll put on a show for the scouts, coaches, general managers and more than 120 credential media members who will have eyes on him Wednesday at Williams-Brice Stadium.

“I go through bag drills pretty easy, so I’m not even worried about that,” Clowney told the Observer last week. “I’m glad I don’t have to throw balls.”

Gamecocks quarterback Connor Shaw will handle the throwing portion of the pro day, while scouts will track the route-running of South Carolina receiver Bruce Ellington.

But the main attraction – and the reason NFL Network will cover the event live and ESPN will provide live updates – is Clowney.

Clowney, who grew up in Rock Hill and starred at South Pointe High, likely would have been the No. 1 overall pick last year had he been eligible for the draft.

Instead, he struggled through a junior season marred by injuries and inconsistency. Clowney finished with just three sacks after averaging 10.5 his first two seasons.

Clowney said his production slipped because of opponents’ schemes – double-team blocks, quick-release passes and running plays designed to go away from him.

But some scouts and opponents – and even South Carolina coach Steve Spurrier – have questioned Clowney’s work ethic, a charge Clowney failed to refute when he skipped the on-field drills at the scouting combine in February.

Jed Hartigan, director of Velocity Sports Performance, said he was expecting to find a loafer when Clowney showed up at his facility six weeks ago. That was not the case.

“Everyone talks about how he doesn’t work hard. That kid worked his (butt) off,” Hartigan said Tuesday. “He might not have worked hard before, but right now he’s training really, really hard.”

Clowney began working with Hartigan following an up-and-down combine performance that was not unlike Clowney’s final season with the Gamecocks.

Clowney, who measured 6-foot-5 and 266 pounds in Indianapolis, blew through the 40-yard dash in 4.53 seconds at the combine. But his 21 reps in the pro bench press (225 pounds) were a bit lackluster for a pass-rushing end who hopes to be the first player drafted.

Clowney indicated he plans to do all the position work Wednesday and could be asked to do linebacker drills by teams eyeing him as a 3-4 outside linebacker. Hartigan would not say whether Clowney planned to do the bench press again, but believes Clowney is going to have a big day.

“I’m excited to see what he does (Wednesday) and his rookie season,” Hartigan said. “He’s one of the most explosive players I’ve ever seen, and I’ve worked with 75 NFL players. He’s going to turn some heads.”

Aries Walker · 04-02-2014, 02:40 PM

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How tall is that dude? He reaches up and he looks like arm span is 10 feet wide.

Close. It's 8'3".

keg in kc · 04-02-2014, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Can you imagine the debates that would have raged on this board? Clowney or Manziel?

Wouldn't even be a debate for me. My views on Manziel are essentially the same as my views on Sanchez 5 years ago. I'd be Clowney all the way.

OldSchool · 04-02-2014, 02:49 PM

They say that Sutton looked better than Clowney in LB drills.

Deberg_1990 · 04-02-2014, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Wouldn't even be a debate for me. My views on Manziel are essentially the same as my views on Sanchez 5 years ago. I'd be Clowney all the way.

Most GMs will take the safest bet 99 times out of 100.

keg in kc · 04-02-2014, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Most GMs will take the safest bet 99 times out of 100.

Well, part of the equation is how good I believe Clowney can/will be, and how key his position/skillset is with the league as pass-happy as it is.

If we're talking about a 5-tech or an o-lineman instead, it's a bit of a different discussion. "Safe" in that sense doesn't do much for me (see: views on Eric Fisher).

Deberg_1990 · 04-02-2014, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Well, part of the equation is how good I believe Clowney can/will be, and how key his position/skillset is with the league as pass-happy as it is.

If we're talking about a 5-tech or an o-lineman instead, it's a bit of a different discussion. "Safe" in that sense doesn't do much for me (see: views on Eric Fisher).

Fisher was taken 1st because it was a sh*t draft overall. Ive heard some people say he would be taken around 10-12 if he was coming out this year.

But yes, generally, the most "highly coveted" positions in todays game are QB and pass rushing DE or LB. There wasnt anything at those postions worthy of being taken that high last year.

Halfcan · 04-02-2014, 03:38 PM

Clowney is destined for the faders for a few years at least until he eats his way out of the nfl.

keg in kc · 04-02-2014, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Fisher was taken 1st because it was a sh*t draft overall. Ive heard some people say he would be taken around 10-12 if he was coming out this year.

But yes, generally, the most "highly coveted" positions in todays game are QB and pass rushing DE or LB. There wasnt anything at those postions worthy of being taken that high last year.

I was one of the ones making that argument last year, that he'd have been a mid-first round pick in a stronger draft. As I said at the time, I would've gone WR last year, either Austin or Patterson. Mainly because, in a weaker draft, my philosophy would be to go for the highest ceiling, rather than the safest floor. And I would've wanted to at least try to start a new 'era' with a home run pick.

Anyway, as we all know it's a different situation with Clowney, who's a far better prospect than anyone in that draft.

TEX · 04-02-2014, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Most GMs will take the safest bet 99 times out of 100.

Thats why Ive felt all along the Texans go with Clowney at 1.1 if they cant trade down.

SeeingRed · 04-02-2014, 10:06 PM

Phenominal athlete but a 266 lbs 3-4 DE? What is the typical weight for a starting 3-4 DE in the NFL?

OldSchool · 04-02-2014, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SeeingRed

Phenominal athlete but a 266 lbs 3-4 DE? What is the typical weight for a starting 3-4 DE in the NFL?

He would be a 3-4 rush backer for us. Easily athletic enough but will be rushing pretty much 99% of the time.

**Gadzooks** · 04-02-2014, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Shucks.

I guess I wouldn't mind Khalil Mack or Sammy Watkins as a consolation prize

Both consolations would've been better than Fisher.

Aries Walker · 04-02-2014, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

He would be a 3-4 rush backer for us. Easily athletic enough but will be rushing pretty much 99% of the time.

I read that the Texans' 3-4 is planning to use him as an outside linebacker, if they draft him.

OldSchool · 04-02-2014, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Aries Walker

I read that the Texans' 3-4 is planning to use him as an outside linebacker, if they draft him.

Yup, good luck what ever qb has to face Watt, a second year and improved Mercilus, and now Clowney.

SeeingRed · 04-02-2014, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

Yup, good luck what ever qb has to face Watt, a second year and improved Mercilus, and now Clowney.

very true...gotta try and pound the ball against these guys. Got rushers coming from all over if they draft Clowney

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