Football How good would the Chiefs be with this BrokeDick @ QB? - Page 10

R8RFAN · 10-24-2012, 04:54 PM

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/palmer-...4749--nfl.html
ALAMEDA, Calif. (AP) -- As prolific as he's been in his career, Oakland's Carson Palmer is on an unparalleled pace for him.
Palmer is on track to join 2002 NFL MVP Rich Gannon as the only quarterbacks in franchise history to eclipse the 4,600-yard mark in a single-season. Gannon passed for 4,689 yards during the '02 season when he led Oakland to its first Super Bowl appearance in nearly two decades.
That'd be quite an accomplishment for Palmer considering the Raiders receiving corps has been banged up since training camp. Oakland has also had issues with pass protection and the running game, making it easier for defenses to concentrate on Palmer.
Ideally, Palmer says the Raiders would be better off being more balanced offensively.

+ 12 Games in a row with over 200 yards passing...

Palmer is not the problem in Raiderland and if he was playing for the Chiefs they would be SB contenders...

Who agrees with me or does the hate for the Raiders consume you too much to take off your glasses?
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/palmer-...4749--nfl.html

Pasta Little Brioni · 11-24-2012, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog

So an above average Kyle Orton? Suuuhhhhweeeeeeeeeeetttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yup, been telling him that since they acquired him. Kings of the meaningless yards.

**lewdog** · 11-24-2012, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM

Yup, been telling him that since they acquired him. Kings of the meaningless yards.

But Carson has been so productive!

Pasta Little Brioni · 11-24-2012, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog

But Carson has been so productive!

Reighters is a true fan. He loves these 7-8 win seasons.

Hootie · 11-24-2012, 01:40 PM

I've been the biggest Carson Palmer basher on this entire site, and I'll admit, I haven't watched a whole lot of Raiders games outside of it being forced down my throat during one RedZone when there were only two games being played in the afternoon...

Here are the facts:

1) Carson Palmer still throws a pretty ball...always has, always will.
2) Carson Palmer still struggles with accuracy.
3) Carson Palmer is still a statue in the pocket.
4) Carson Palmer has picked up a TON OF HIS STATS in total garbage time.

He's still a borderline NFL starter (which yes, makes him much better than Matt Cassel) who is still never going to win his team anything important.

So while he may not be as bad as I have always considered him, he still isn't great, and I'm most certainly not jealous of him being on the Raiders.

Pasta Little Brioni · 11-24-2012, 01:41 PM

Good take Hootie

Hootie · 11-24-2012, 01:41 PM

I am jealous of Peyton Manning.

I am not jealous of Philip Rivers anymore...something happened to him (Norv) and the way he throws the ball makes me want to vomit.

If we get Geno I'll take our QB situation over the Raiders and Chargers based off of potential alone. Geno potentially gives us a franchise QB. The Raiders and Chargers have two average guys who don't have Super Bowl potential.

Hootie · 11-24-2012, 01:43 PM

now if we're talking fantasy...sign me up. I'll take a guy on the team that can't run, has to throw, and is always playing from behind.

I think a lot of people have confused Palmer's fantasy stats this year with him suddenly turning back the clock and being that QB he was for two years before his injury.

Simply not true. Carson Palmer is Drew Bledsoe.

Hootie · 11-24-2012, 01:48 PM

Since I'm bored at work here are my 2012 1 year only QB rankings:

1. Peyton Manning
1b. Tom Brady
2. Aaron Rodgers
3. Eli Manning
4. Drew Brees
5. Andrew Luck
6. RGIII
7. Matt Ryan
8. Ben Roethlisberger
9. Andy Dalton
10. Jay Cutler

Honorable Mentions: Matt Stafford, Matt Schaub, Josh Freeman

Everyone else: Not having a year where I think they could lead a team to a playoff win.

Player who is dying to me: Tony Romo (even though I think he's in a terrible situation, with a terrible coach, a terrible line, and a terrible over involved owner)...he just makes too many mistakes (I can admit when I am wrong, even though I still think he has elite potential but he just may never reach it)

Hootie · 11-24-2012, 01:50 PM

the Matt Ryan-Jay Cutler is its own tier...probably not elite like Manning-Brees, but can definitely win Super Bowls with complete team play...

The Luck-RGIII enigma tier is the next big thing, so I had to rate them above the Ryan-Cutler tier.

the Stafford tier needs two good bounces to win a Super Bowl I believe, so no way can I pick the Texans to represent the AFC when 1a and 1b stand in his way (unless they get two bounces)...

Stafford holds the ball too long, and even though he's accurate, he has terrible footwork.

Freeman is having himself quite a year...I tell you what, they sneak into the playoffs and I think they may win a game in the postseason. That's a lot of credit to Schiano.

Hootie · 11-24-2012, 01:51 PM

dream scenario for me (a true QB fan)...

Pats/Broncos AFC Championship
Packers/Giants NFC Championship

and then of course I'd love to see the Mannings square up in the Super Bowl...and since I could never cheer for Denver...here's to Eli getting ring #3 =)

Hootie · 11-24-2012, 01:52 PM

on a hail mary in the end zone ruled a simultaneous catch when Cruz and Bailey come down with 50% of the ball each!

Sweet Daddy Hate · 11-24-2012, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers

Carson Palmer has thrown for over 5,000-yards in his last 16 games.

Over his past 16 games with the Raiders, Palmer has been more productive than at any other point in his career. He’s completed over 60% of his passes, for 5,041 yards and 25 TD’s. That’s right…Palmer is a 5,000 yard passer over the past 16 games.

Ain't it a damn shame we have 0 defense

Oh we can't score in the RZ either

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/dont-bl...0320--nfl.html

Yeah, we're feeling your pain. Hope things get better for ya'...

Pasta Little Brioni · 11-24-2012, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

dream scenario for me (a true QB fan)...

Pats/Broncos AFC Championship
Packers/Giants NFC Championship

and then of course I'd love to see the Mannings square up in the Super Bowl...and since I could never cheer for Denver...here's to Eli getting ring #3 =)

Hootie, I want no part of Denver in the Super Bowl. I know it won't happen, but still.

**BigMeatballDave** · 11-24-2012, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

dream scenario for me (a true QB fan)...

Pats/Broncos AFC Championship
Packers/Giants NFC Championship

and then of course I'd love to see the Mannings square up in the Super Bowl...and since I could never cheer for Denver...here's to Eli getting ring #3 =)

**** DENVER IN THEIR ASSES

**BigMeatballDave** · 11-24-2012, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

I am jealous of Peyton Manning.

I'm rooting for the Chiefs to break him this week.

10-24-2012, 04:54 PM
R8RFAN Molôn Labé Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: North Carolina Casino cash: $8566872	How good would the Chiefs be with this BrokeDick @ QB? http://sports.yahoo.com/news/palmer-...4749--nfl.html ALAMEDA, Calif. (AP) -- As prolific as he's been in his career, Oakland's Carson Palmer is on an unparalleled pace for him. Palmer is on track to join 2002 NFL MVP Rich Gannon as the only quarterbacks in franchise history to eclipse the 4,600-yard mark in a single-season. Gannon passed for 4,689 yards during the '02 season when he led Oakland to its first Super Bowl appearance in nearly two decades. That'd be quite an accomplishment for Palmer considering the Raiders receiving corps has been banged up since training camp. Oakland has also had issues with pass protection and the running game, making it easier for defenses to concentrate on Palmer. Ideally, Palmer says the Raiders would be better off being more balanced offensively. + 12 Games in a row with over 200 yards passing... Palmer is not the problem in Raiderland and if he was playing for the Chiefs they would be SB contenders... Who agrees with me or does the hate for the Raiders consume you too much to take off your glasses? http://sports.yahoo.com/news/palmer-...4749--nfl.html
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11-24-2012, 01:40 PM	#139
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I've been the biggest Carson Palmer basher on this entire site, and I'll admit, I haven't watched a whole lot of Raiders games outside of it being forced down my throat during one RedZone when there were only two games being played in the afternoon... Here are the facts: 1) Carson Palmer still throws a pretty ball...always has, always will. 2) Carson Palmer still struggles with accuracy. 3) Carson Palmer is still a statue in the pocket. 4) Carson Palmer has picked up a TON OF HIS STATS in total garbage time. He's still a borderline NFL starter (which yes, makes him much better than Matt Cassel) who is still never going to win his team anything important. So while he may not be as bad as I have always considered him, he still isn't great, and I'm most certainly not jealous of him being on the Raiders.
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11-24-2012, 01:41 PM	#140
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11-24-2012, 01:41 PM	#141
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I am jealous of Peyton Manning. I am not jealous of Philip Rivers anymore...something happened to him (Norv) and the way he throws the ball makes me want to vomit. If we get Geno I'll take our QB situation over the Raiders and Chargers based off of potential alone. Geno potentially gives us a franchise QB. The Raiders and Chargers have two average guys who don't have Super Bowl potential.
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11-24-2012, 01:43 PM	#142
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	now if we're talking fantasy...sign me up. I'll take a guy on the team that can't run, has to throw, and is always playing from behind. I think a lot of people have confused Palmer's fantasy stats this year with him suddenly turning back the clock and being that QB he was for two years before his injury. Simply not true. Carson Palmer is Drew Bledsoe.
Posts: 56,356

11-24-2012, 01:48 PM	#143
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Since I'm bored at work here are my 2012 1 year only QB rankings: 1. Peyton Manning 1b. Tom Brady 2. Aaron Rodgers 3. Eli Manning 4. Drew Brees 5. Andrew Luck 6. RGIII 7. Matt Ryan 8. Ben Roethlisberger 9. Andy Dalton 10. Jay Cutler Honorable Mentions: Matt Stafford, Matt Schaub, Josh Freeman Everyone else: Not having a year where I think they could lead a team to a playoff win. Player who is dying to me: Tony Romo (even though I think he's in a terrible situation, with a terrible coach, a terrible line, and a terrible over involved owner)...he just makes too many mistakes (I can admit when I am wrong, even though I still think he has elite potential but he just may never reach it)
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11-24-2012, 01:50 PM	#144
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	the Matt Ryan-Jay Cutler is its own tier...probably not elite like Manning-Brees, but can definitely win Super Bowls with complete team play... The Luck-RGIII enigma tier is the next big thing, so I had to rate them above the Ryan-Cutler tier. the Stafford tier needs two good bounces to win a Super Bowl I believe, so no way can I pick the Texans to represent the AFC when 1a and 1b stand in his way (unless they get two bounces)... Stafford holds the ball too long, and even though he's accurate, he has terrible footwork. Freeman is having himself quite a year...I tell you what, they sneak into the playoffs and I think they may win a game in the postseason. That's a lot of credit to Schiano.
Posts: 56,356

11-24-2012, 01:51 PM	#145
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	dream scenario for me (a true QB fan)... Pats/Broncos AFC Championship Packers/Giants NFC Championship and then of course I'd love to see the Mannings square up in the Super Bowl...and since I could never cheer for Denver...here's to Eli getting ring #3 =)
Posts: 56,356

11-24-2012, 01:52 PM	#146
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	on a hail mary in the end zone ruled a simultaneous catch when Cruz and Bailey come down with 50% of the ball each!
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