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Old 03-23-2017, 09:57 AM  
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Let's discuss some sleepers or guys that you're really high on that aren't getting much of any buzz. I'll start with 3 I really like (one of which I've mocked so I'll just throw my report in from there). I'll try to add more here as we move along.

Aaron Jones, RB, Texas El-Paso (5'9" 208)
Outstanding back with great balance, speed, quickness, and lower body explosion. Combine numbers back up tape. Underrated runner from small school that put up large numbers and did so against top competition as well. A slashing running back that will makes defenders pay in open space. Effective jump cut and spin move. Active feet and great balance to break tackles and make quick moves to cut on a dime. Outstanding vision and patience. Follows his blocks and finds his cutback lanes. Outstanding receiver out of the backfield. Can beat linebackers down field and can make catches in stride with soft hands. Takes care of the football. Runs a bit high, opening himself up to some hits and reducing his power inside the tackle box. One of the most productive players in college football in 2016 with over 2000 all purpose yards and 20 TDs (1773 rush and 17 tds and 233 receiving and 3 tds) which saw him average 7.7 yards per carry. Was injured for most of 2015, but put up extremely impressive stats in 2014 with over 1300 yards rushing. A huge sleeper in a deep class that will give a team a value pick in the mold of Charlie Garner or LeSean McCoy as a prototypical WCO back that can run the outside stretch and catch passes out of the backfield.

Robert Davis, WR, Georgia State (6'3" 219)
Outstanding size/speed prospect. Runs good routes. Reliable hands-catcher. Tracks the ball well on deep throws. Ability to make acrobatic catches in traffic and on the goal line. Has long stride and good top-end speed to break big gains. Superb leaping ability. Production against all levels of competition. Great change-of-direct skills despite his size and gate. Looks like a #1 receiver in the NFL, especially if he learns to use his size to his advantage. Put up better testing numbers than Dez Bryant.

Winston Craig, DT, Richmond (6'3" 288)
Stout with a thick bubble. Shows good burst off the snap with a strong initial punch. Splits double-teams well with a nice arm over. Uses hands extremely well. Shows the ability to one-arm and keep his frame clean. Disruptive. Outstanding closing burst to the ball carrier. Scrapes down the line well and makes plays outside of his zone. Nasty, hittting with purpose when he gets a clean release. Experience as a 3-4 DE. One of the most productive defensive lineman in the FCS. 3rd team All-American. Hard worker that never misses a training day and was a team captain.
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Old 05-01-2017, 12:48 PM   #31
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Back at my desk - here's why that grading scale is perfect: it gives you a fantastic grounds for comparison.

For instance, let's use Kareem Hunt. I would consider Hunt a 7.0(B). Now I look at someone like Joe Williams and say that he's a 7.5(D). I think Williams has the ability to be a better player than Hunt but that extra .5 isn't enough to justify the step from a B to a D in terms of likelihood of getting there. So ultimately I'd consider Hunt a better prospect than Williams (and by a not insignificant amount).

Dalvin Cook I would say is a 7.5(B); just as likely as Hunt to hit his ceiling but a better player than Hunt if they both do. As such, I'd say he's a better prospect. Someone like Kamara would be a 7.5(C); higher ceiling than Hunt but less likely to hit his. I'd consider him just a slightly better prospect for us, though not for all teams. In Spencer Ware, I believe we already have the steady, dependable if unspectacular RB that a 7 suggests. So I'd gamble on the extra upside in Kamara.

You look at someone like West and I think you'd have called him a 5.5(D). He's perfect proof that a D doesn't mean you won't hit that 5.5 (solid complementary player), but that it's unlikely. He actually hit it. So as a prospect, he was a pretty lousy one. But as a player, he's decent.

With Mahomes I think you have a no-shit 9.0(D). That ceiling is immense though the odds of hitting it aren't great. That doesn't mean he can't settle into a nice 8.0 player or even a 7. But that ceiling is massive. Whereas someone like Trubisky would be a 7.5(C). I'd have a hard time giving any QB more than a C ranking, but someone like Luck could get there. The problem is that Luck would've been a 10(B). You can't say anyone's an A bet to hit a HoF skill level. Manning, OTOH, I'd have graded something like a 9.0(A). I thought he was an outstanding bet to hit his ceiling, I just wouldn't have put his ceiling as high as it got.

Robert Davis would've gotten something like an 8.0(F) from me. Really really REALLY long odds but the ability is there for him to be a great one. That said, anyone with an F chance of hitting their ceiling has got to be seen as something of a shit wild-card and 5th round pick at best. I'd have still preferred him over Chesson's 6.5(D), however.

Now I don't know that it helps me convince anyone to agree with where I'm coming from, but I think it does a great job of showing people exactly what I'm trying to say (regardless of whether or not they agree with me). The scale leaves room for people to disagree (for instance, I'd imagine Hunts fans would rank him more in the 8.0(B) range, hence their affinity for him), but it sure does distill where you're coming from nicely.
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