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Old 10-30-2013, 11:53 AM  
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Victory for Jamie Oliver in the U.S. as McDonald’s is forced to stop using pink slime

TV chef was disgusted to discover ammonium hydroxide was being used by McDonald's to convert fatty beef offcuts into a beef filler for burgers




'Why would any sensible human being want to put ammonia-filled meat into their children's mouths? asked Jamie Oliver



McDonald's denies its hand had been forced by TV campaign


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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...er-recipe.html
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Old 10-31-2013, 10:11 AM   #76
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Too much alcohol is also bad for you.

Should we stop making it?
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Old 10-31-2013, 10:15 AM   #77
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Another fly trapped...
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Old 10-31-2013, 10:17 AM   #78
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Another fly trapped...
Is that supposed to be a joke then? Another fly trapped? WTF are you talking about? Are you drinking right now?
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Old 10-31-2013, 10:19 AM   #79
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I'm pretty sure McDonald's announced that they stopped using this stuff over a year ago. But by all means, continue with your outrage.
Yep, almost 2 yrs ago.
http://abcnews.go.com/m/blogEntry?id....google.com%2F
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Old 10-31-2013, 10:23 AM   #80
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Is that supposed to be a joke then? Another fly trapped? WTF are you talking about? Are you drinking right now?
I rarely drink.

People complain about getting rid of things that are bad for you.

I thought I'd mention alcohol. I knew I'd get a response.

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Old 10-31-2013, 10:24 AM   #81
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I rarely drink.

People complain about getting rid of things that are bad for you.

I thought I'd mention alcohol. I knew I'd get a response.

The facepalm is because it's a horrible freaking analogy with more holes than swiss cheese, not because it's related to alcohol.
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Old 10-31-2013, 10:27 AM   #82
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The facepalm is because it's a horrible freaking analogy with more holes than swiss cheese, not because it's related to alcohol.
I wasn't making an analogy.

I was trolling.
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Old 10-31-2013, 10:37 AM   #83
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Why would I be kidding? Low cost food is a good thing.
I'm sure saving a few dollars for a cheap burger is worth the cost of diabetes, health issues, and decreased workplace productivity. I'm sure this is worth the billions in health related costs associated with morbid obesity.

The basics of supply and demand is that if more people eat healthy food, healthy food can be priced lower. I would rather that than to sell people garbage that is creating a massive societal cost.
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Old 10-31-2013, 10:38 AM   #84
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Old 10-31-2013, 10:43 AM   #85
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In meat its used to kill bacteria and antimicrobial to control pathogens.
This is not used when butchering beef such as beef cuts, but when processing beef sometimes. Typically when beef scraps and parts of the animal that would not be fit for human consumption are included as filler.

It's ammonium hydroxide - not naturally occurring ammonia. The only reason it's being used is to prevent things like trace amounts of fecal matter or other nasty parts of the cow that they use. They won't comment on it and I don't think they still do, but at one point cow bone was part of the filler used in the processed beef for McD's patties. A trusty bone grinder, eventually worked into a consistency of a fine powderlike existence. No label or notice issues as its technically 100% "beef".
Excellent post.

This is why transparency is important. Part of the reason I have no sympathy for McDonald's
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Old 10-31-2013, 10:57 AM   #86
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It's ammonium hydroxide - not naturally occurring ammonia.
Ammonium hydroxide is regular ammonia dissolved into water.
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Old 10-31-2013, 11:03 AM   #87
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I rarely drink.

People complain about getting rid of things that are bad for you.

I thought I'd mention alcohol. I knew I'd get a response.

When we talk about things that cause terrible social ills, health problems, directly attributable deaths, etc.- we dont include alcohol because we like that one. We only demonize unhealthy stuff that we personally have no taste for.
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Old 10-31-2013, 11:05 AM   #88
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I ate McDonalds after having too much to drink last night. I feel like shit today and I'm not sure if it's because of the booze or the McDonalds.
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Old 10-31-2013, 11:11 AM   #89
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I'm sure saving a few dollars for a cheap burger is worth the cost of diabetes, health issues, and decreased workplace productivity. I'm sure this is worth the billions in health related costs associated with morbid obesity.

The basics of supply and demand is that if more people eat healthy food, healthy food can be priced lower. I would rather that than to sell people garbage that is creating a massive societal cost.
The problem of diabetes and health issues would remain if you closed every single McD's in the country. That's the point you're missing. It's not the access to a particular food that's the problem. It's the fact that people don't care. You can't make people eat healthy food by attempting to remove all the unhealthy food. That doesn't work, and that will never work. Fatties don't eat at McD's all the time because they don't have access to healthy food alternatives. They absolutely do, even within McD's itself.

You keep harping that people are being tricked, and they don't know that what they eat is unhealthy. But that's BS. The nutritional info is always available for everything they serve, for those that want to find out. What else do you want? A popup disclaimer every time somebody orders a Big Mac and large fries and coke that says "Hey fatty, you sure you know how many calories that is?" Come on.....
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I'm sure saving a few dollars for a cheap burger is worth the cost of diabetes, health issues, and decreased workplace productivity. I'm sure this is worth the billions in health related costs associated with morbid obesity.

The basics of supply and demand is that if more people eat healthy food, healthy food can be priced lower. I would rather that than to sell people garbage that is creating a massive societal cost.
I wasn't an economics major so please correct me if I'm wrong, but if more people eat healthy food that would mean demand for healthy food increases. If demand goes up and the supply stays the same then prices theoretically would increase.
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