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Old 09-07-2017, 08:14 AM   #226
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Like, I'll have the list of draft prospects and their projected round, and I'll spend a ton of points unlocking all their attributes and at the end of damn near each one, it'll say "undrafted" or "7th Round prospect" on a guy where the list had them as a 1st round or 2nd round pick. WTF. The 'scouting' aspect seems pretty pointless to me.
Yes, it's intended to simulate the volatile nature of scouting draft prospects.

Of course you can still draft a guy who is ranked as a first rounder but scouts poorly, but it's risky. You will probably get a guy with great physical tools and shit intangibles.

You will eventually develop a feel for it where you don't have to waste scouting points after you scout the first trait. If a guy's first trait isn't at least a B- I usually don't spend any more points on him, regardless of where he's ranked. If the second trait isn't at least a C+ I stop there, because it usually means the third trait is shitty.

I'll also only scout the first trait on skill position players, spend the rest of the points on other positions, and then go back to skill players after the combine info comes out. That way I'm not wasting points on a 4.7 WR.

As for your GM/HC/Scouts, if you upgrade your coach you can get more scouting points to spend. Changing scouts will reduce the cost of scouting a certain position group.
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Old 09-07-2017, 08:17 AM   #227
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Dayze, try to read what defense they have out there if its a zone or man, if its a zone do a lot of drag routes, wait for your guy to get open hit them
yeah, that's what I typically try to do - though sometimes get lazy about it.
Seems like this year I'll get my ass handed to me if I get lazy about it.


though, this year is the first year I'm playing on a higher difficulty; so I'm sure that has a lot to do with it. Adjustment period for me etc.

I probably hollered out "Son of a bitch" about 20 times last night lol.
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Old 09-07-2017, 08:19 AM   #228
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Yes, it's intended to simulate the volatile nature of scouting draft prospects.

Of course you can still draft a guy who is ranked as a first rounder but scouts poorly, but it's risky. You will probably get a guy with great physical tools and shit intangibles.

You will eventually develop a feel for it where you don't have to waste scouting points after you scout the first trait. If a guy's first trait isn't at least a B- I usually don't spend any more points on him, regardless of where he's ranked. If the second trait isn't at least a C+ I stop there, because it usually means the third trait is shitty

I'll also only scout the first trait on skill position players, spend the rest of the points on other positions, and then go back to skill players after the combine info comes out. That way I'm not wasting points on a 4.7 WR.

As for your GM/HC/Scouts, if you upgrade your coach you can get more scouting points to spend. Changing scouts will reduce the cost of scouting a certain position group.

good tips. definitely more involved than what I'm used to playing.
I'm going to try this approach. Thanks bud.
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Old 09-07-2017, 08:27 AM   #229
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I typically have played Franchise as a player, or have a few Franchises going so I'll play as QB, or MLB, etc just to mix things up.

This year, I'm giving it a go playing with full control of the team. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but it seems like the scouting of players is messed up? Like, I'll have the list of draft prospects and their projected round, and I'll spend a ton of points unlocking all their attributes and at the end of damn near each one, it'll say "undrafted" or "7th Round prospect" on a guy where the list had them as a 1st round or 2nd round pick. WTF. The 'scouting' aspect seems pretty pointless to me.

I mean, I get it from a concept POV, but it just seems like more unecessary clicking/button pushing and navigating. then after all the button pushing is over, nearly every guy you've been trying to unlock, ends up being WAY off in terms of where they were originally projected. Is that because of some scouting attribute my team/HC/GM has / doesn't have?
I think you get a better idea by the end of the season and off season especially after the combine. Its like real life where someone who is supposed to be a high pick does terrible in college and his draft stock falls. You just want to pick the main positions you're after and scout the entire player list.
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Pretty easy draft guide in the spoiler, just didn't want to post it in case anyone doesn't want to use a guide.

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Pretty easy draft guide in the spoiler, just didn't want to post it in case anyone doesn't want to use a guide.

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Old 09-07-2017, 09:15 AM   #232
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I used his guides in multiple M17 franchise leagues, very good stuff.
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well dang...
now I'm half tempted to just start my franchise over and utilize that draft strategy. I"m only about 7 games in and haven't done any massive roster changes / trades etc.

but, probably signed a guy or two that I probably didn't need to I suspect.
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I restarted my franchise with the new roster. Although I picked up lots of players from free agency and traded them immediately for higher draft picks ( the corniest of Madden moves, I know), I kept the whole team intact.

I played on PRO with some custom sliders.

I managed to beat New England on the first go, and despite some adversity. Houston was out half the game with a strain, Conley and Kelce were both lost for multiple games. Berry returned a pick-6 to keep me in the game though. And then, the unlikeliest of heroes... Mahomes was knocked out of the game in the 3rd quarter and Alex came in and immediately threw a TD strike to Escobar (not sure why Escobar was still on the squad though). Later in the fourth, he connected with Harris for a TD and won at the end of regulation.

It really helps to build your own playbook I think. Mostly, my playbook is simpler with less sets within each formation and I only kept the plays I liked. I still have about 150 plays, but it is easier to navigate then the 450 otherwise with way too many sets/formations. I use a play-action heavy play book with lots of long and medium pass opportunities. Also, updating the audibles to have a mix of middle run, perimeter run, play action, and medium passes for each formation really helped. I found that running out of a single-back four WR set tends to stretch the defenses pretty thin, and with good audibles, you can switch out of it (or into the middle run) based on defenses.
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