I like the Poe pick

[qabbaan]

Just want to be the one who was right.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Setsuna

I just want to say....Jason Pierre Paul had just as much raw talent as Poe, yet dominated in his conference. He hadn't even played football till his junior year in HS. Coaching has nothing to do with it. That argument is void.

Ends get a lot more stats than tackles...and USF was actually pretty good.

[Extra Point]

Originally Posted by O.city

Mecca has talked me into wanting Upshaw.

Seeing all the Bama footage tonite did it for me.

[mnchiefsguy]

Originally Posted by Mecca

You're now gonna hear the team behind us moved back, why couldn't we make the deal with the Eagles?

That is a legitimate question, no? Since the Eagles were hell bent on taking Cox (one of the commentators said Philly was willing to trade into the top ten to get him), Pioli could have said "we have Poe and Cox as 1a and 1b, but if you really want Cox, we can make a deal", that the Eagles would not have been willing to work with that?

The draft choice would look much better if made later in the first with a couple of extra picks thrown in there. The consensus seems to be that Poe was going to be there later in the first round.

Of course, Pioli could have tried exactly that, and Philly called his bluff, and then they got Seattle to take less to move up to #12. That is a completely reasonable scenario as well.

I am trying to be upbeat but my gut is telling me this is a bad, bad pick. Ryan Sims bad. Tyson Jackson bad. Todd Blackledge bad. Time will tell, and I hope my gut is wrong and is just overreacting.

[Trevo_410]

hey guys, we could be seattle... or maybe even a seahawk and royals fan....

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy

That is a legitimate question, no? Since the Eagles were hell bent on taking Cox (one of the commentators said Philly was willing to trade into the top ten to get him), Pioli could have said "we have Poe and Cox as 1a and 1b, but if you really want Cox, we can make a deal", that the Eagles would not have been willing to work with that?

The draft choice would look much better if made later in the first with a couple of extra picks thrown in there. The consensus seems to be that Poe was going to be there later in the first round.

Of course, Pioli could have tried exactly that, and Philly called his bluff, and then they got Seattle to take less to move up to #12. That is a completely reasonable scenario as well.

I am trying to be upbeat but my gut is telling me this is a bad, bad pick. Ryan Sims bad. Tyson Jackson bad. Todd Blackledge bad. Time will tell, and I hope my gut is wrong and is just overreacting.

Tyson Jackson wasn't a good pick. But he certainly wasn't a bad pick either.

[O.city]

I'd say the Chiefs wanted Poe. The Seahawks might have wanted him too. The Chiefs might have been worried that trading back to 14 made them miss out on Poe.

Just a thought.

[beach tribe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0IaN...eature=related
Watch Poe get by his man @ 6:50 (I know the QB gets the ball off, but it ain't his fault)
Hell watch the whole video. He may not have racked up a lot of #s, but he put some orange mound ass whoopins on a few guys.

[O.city]

Imagine if the guy actually does fill the potential and becomes as good as Ngata.



What does that do for this defense and DJ and Belcher?

[mnchiefsguy]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Tyson Jackson wasn't a good pick. But he certainly wasn't a bad pick either.

At #3 in the draft for a team that went 2-14 the previous year, he was absolutely a bad pick.

Jackson's ceiling is being a good player...at #3 in the entire NFL draft...the player you take in that spot needs to have "Bad Mother****er" tattooed on his wallet.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by O.city

Imagine if the guy actually does fill the potential and becomes as good as Ngata.



What does that do for this defense and DJ and Belcher?

If? The defense rapes and destroys worlds.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy

At #3 in the draft for a team that went 2-14 the previous year, he was absolutely a bad pick.

Jackson's ceiling is being a good player...at #3 in the entire NFL draft...the player you take in that spot needs to have "Bad Mother****er" tattooed on his wallet.

Like this year's draft at the position we drafted at, the Chiefs took Jackson at a spot where the options completely sucked. I was pushing for Raji a few years ago. But in the end, Jackson will be a solid player where 70% of the top 10 in that draft class were utter crap. He wasn't a bad pick, but he wasn't a good one.

[Trevo_410]

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0IaN...eature=related
Watch Poe get by his man @ 6:50 (I know the QB gets the ball off, but it ain't his fault)
Hell watch the whole video. He may not have racked up a lot of #s, but he put some orange mound ass whoopins on a few guys.

that's Arkansas State homey. Not exactly a power house team. And Poe is unimpressive. Again, his tape is not impressive.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0IaN...eature=related
Watch Poe get by his man @ 6:50 (I know the QB gets the ball off, but it ain't his fault)
Hell watch the whole video. He may not have racked up a lot of #s, but he put some orange mound ass whoopins on a few guys.

I've watched over 12min. of that video so far. More often than not, he is blocked by a single olineman. Where's all this double and triple teaming everyone is talking about happening on every play? So far, he has been both double and triple teamed, but nowhere near as much as he's been block by a single olineman, and he still hasn't made a play in this video.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy

At #3 in the draft for a team that went 2-14 the previous year, he was absolutely a bad pick.

Jackson's ceiling is being a good player...at #3 in the entire NFL draft...the player you take in that spot needs to have "Bad Mother****er" tattooed on his wallet.

How quickly you forget. Who then should the Chiefs have taken? If you don't remember, it was a VERY WEAK top of the draft that year. Nobody for us to pick and nobody good enough for anyone to trade up for.

Hindsight is 20/20, an you will probably come up with a guy, but I'm sure it isn't the guy you were hoping we would have taken. Tyson had a much better year than Raji, a better career than Sanchez and so on. You have to go all the way down to the 13th pick to Orakpo to find a guy.

Stop ragging on TJ. He was an acceptable pick at the time and is a better player now than most give him credit for. I expect yet another good year from him.