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Old 09-20-2018, 11:17 AM  
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We’ve got to get Eric Murray off the field



Everybody pretty much did their job here in the back end except Murray. This defense looks so much worse because of him. The guy just doesn’t have a good read on coverage.

It sucks that we are pressed to play him bc we are forced too due to Sorenson and Berry being hurt.

FWIW Armani Watts played 16 defensive snaps in the Steelers game as opposed to 3 in LA. I think he’s coming up to speed.

Only a matter of time until Murray is on the bench and we look better.
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Old 09-20-2018, 08:28 PM   #151
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You have to flow to where the receivers are, zones are fluid. We can blame Nelson, Parker and Murray. But Murray has to have better awareness there, thats my opinion, you can have yours.
Zones flow but not CLEAR ACROSS THE FIELD.

Nelson should have stayed put. But make no mistake about it, he doesn't even try that if Murray does his job.

Nelson I can forgive. He was trying to cover a problem. Murray? He's ALWAYS out of position. He needs to be covering the bench.
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Old 09-20-2018, 08:29 PM   #152
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Its actually a great play design against what we are running there. Either way somebody is getting open. The seam player breaks his route cause he sees Parker over the top. He likely would have read it and kept going if parker is covering Nelson's guy.
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Old 09-20-2018, 08:31 PM   #153
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Zones flow but not CLEAR ACROSS THE FIELD.

Nelson should have stayed put. But make no mistake about it, he doesn't even try that if Murray does his job.

Nelson I can forgive. He was trying to cover a problem. Murray? He's ALWAYS out of position. He needs to be covering the bench.
Murray is a man corner being asked to play safety. Disaster. He just cant seem to pick up zone coverage.
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Old 09-20-2018, 08:32 PM   #154
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Murray is a man corner being asked to play safety. Disaster. He just cant seem to pick up zone coverage.
Yep. He's athletic (or at least he was in college) but his football IQ just doesn't seem to be very high at all.
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Old 09-20-2018, 08:33 PM   #155
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If you’re playing zone and a qb of bens ability gets that much time it’s not gonna make a whole lot of difference
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Old 09-20-2018, 08:42 PM   #156
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If you’re playing zone and a qb of bens ability gets that much time it’s not gonna make a whole lot of difference
If you drop 8 and everybody stays disciplined, a lot of times there just won't be anywhere to throw. What happens when a play extends is that WR's break off routes (or run option routes) and defenders get antsy. They have to stay put and make sure they cover their zone.
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Old 09-20-2018, 08:53 PM   #157
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I mean, I guess on that play you can talk about who ****ed up the MOST, but to me it just looks like bad team defense.

Not knowing when to switch.

This isn't about scheme. It's a bout a lack of discipline and attention to detail by multiple individuals.

Do I blame the individuals, or the coaches who are preparing them? I'm not at practice or meetings, but it looks ugly.

I don't think the D has overall been as bad as it looks right now. Honestly if you told me KC would have a safety and a turnover in the 2nd half and win I'd be pretty shocked. KC made more stops than Pittsburgh did, and it's a tough place to play defense.
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Old 09-20-2018, 08:54 PM   #158
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I mean, I guess on that play you can talk about who ****ed up the MOST, but to me it just looks like bad team defense.

Not knowing when to switch.

This isn't about scheme. It's a bout a lack of discipline and attention to detail.
Yep. Some of these guys can't even do the basics right.
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Old 09-20-2018, 11:34 PM   #159
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Yes we need to get him off it and berry on it. Assuming his legs still work
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Old 09-21-2018, 12:04 AM   #160
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I don't think the D has overall been as bad as it looks right now. Honestly if you told me KC would have a safety and a turnover in the 2nd half and win I'd be pretty shocked. KC made more stops than Pittsburgh did, and it's a tough place to play defense.
They did make some nice stops. Mainly in the 1st and 4th quarter. It just kinda feels like a minor miracle when we do hold someone to 4th down. Especially a good offense like the Chargers and Steelers. I think the D will look a lot better if and when we get a healthy Berry back. Hes someone that immediately makes both run and pass defense better
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Old 09-21-2018, 12:08 AM   #161
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They did make some nice stops. Mainly in the 1st and 4th quarter. It just kinda feels like a minor miracle when we do hold someone to 4th down. Especially a good offense like the Chargers and Steelers. I think the D will look a lot better if and when we get a healthy Berry back. Hes someone that immediately makes both run and pass defense better
I mean, right now KC's only allowing 27% 3rd down conversion rate.

I'm not expecting it to stay like that, but 3/11 against Ben and Antonio is NOT something I expected.

It allowed KC to win (as long as Mahomes kept pouring it on) after the fumble and safety.
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Old 09-21-2018, 10:34 AM   #162
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I haven't checked the other thread, but I'm assuming Berry is out again this week?
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Old 09-21-2018, 10:40 AM   #163
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I haven't checked the other thread, but I'm assuming Berry is out again this week?
He got paid about 13 months ago.

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Old 09-21-2018, 10:54 AM   #164
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Why in the **** is Watts not practicing?
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Old 09-21-2018, 12:34 PM   #165
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Why in the **** is Watts not practicing?
Probably a personal issue or something. If he's not injured, it probably doesn't matter.
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