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Old 09-18-2018, 09:12 AM  
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Keith Ellison domestic violence accuser says Democratic party doesn't believe her sto

Will Ellison get Frankened over this as a sacrifice to the Kavanaugh obstruction?

The woman who accused Minnesota Democratic Rep. Keith Ellison of domestic abuse said on Monday that Democrats don’t believe her story and threatened to isolate her over the allegations.

Karen Monahan, a former girlfriend, came forward last month alleging that Ellison sent her threatening text messages and once screamed obscenities at her as he dragged her off a bed by her feet.

Ellison has denied the accusations, saying he “never behaved this way.” He did acknowledge he was in a relationship with the woman.

The allegations didn’t lead to any immediate action against the congressman, except for the announcement that the Democratic National Committee (DNC) would review the accusations. He went on to win the Democratic primary election for Minnesota attorney general.

Monahan slammed the Democratic Party for its response to her allegations when compared to its treatment of Christine Blasey Ford. Ford has accused Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of attempting to force himself onto her during at a high school party nearly four decades ago, prompting prominent Democrats to get behind Ford’s allegations.

“No, they don't,” Monahan tweeted in response to a question whether the party believes women’s stories. “I've been smeared, threatened, isolated from my own party. I provided medical records from 2017, stating on two different Dr. Visits, I told them about the abuse and who did it. My therapist released records stating I have been dealing and healing from the abuse.”

She added: “Four people, including my supervisor at the time, stated that I came to them after and shared the exact story I shared publicly, I shared multiple text between me and Keith, where I discuss the abuse with him and much more. As I said before, I knew I wouldn't be believed.”

Her comment came after another user pointed to comments made by Peter Daou, a Democratic strategist and former advisor to Hillary Clinton and John Kerry, who wrote in a tweet that the Kavanaugh accuser will be “attacked, smeared, and demonized” and that people must “believe women.”

Many other Democrats and progressives – who stayed silent when the accusations against Ellison emerged – came out in support of Ford, including Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders and Tom Perez, chairman of the DNC, who urged to investigate the claims and Kavanaugh.

Monahan went to reiterate that her story has nothing to do with politics. “I have nothing to prove to anyone, I simply shared my story. People can believe it or not. I don’t need anyone to affirm my humanity, I affirmed it,” she wrote in another tweet.

“The fact that both parties only care if it scores political points is hypocritical,” she added. “Do you think a person who has dealt with any form of abuse by politicians is thinking about politics? No, we & are families are trying to heal.”

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Old 09-20-2018, 12:32 PM   #76
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Ellison isn't white, isn't a republican, and IS a muslim.

He doesn't have to worry about shit.
Exactly why most biracial identify as black.

No privilege in identifying as white..
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Old 09-20-2018, 12:38 PM   #77
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Ellison isn't white, isn't a republican, and IS a muslim.

He doesn't have to worry about shit.
Does it take all three of those qualities to get one off the hook, or will two do the trick? How about one?
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Old 09-22-2018, 09:53 AM   #78
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Well Minnesota dem voters,how #metoo are you really? Dem party, how about you?

Keith Ellison says his accuser fabricated domestic violence abuse story, can't be sure others won't 'cook up' allegations

U.S. Rep. Keith Ellison pushed back Friday against allegations of domestic abuse, saying his accuser fabricated the story about him.

The Minnesota Democrat also dismissed a medical record that named him as the abuser, but said he can’t be sure more people won’t “cook up” allegations against him.

On Wednesday, Monahan published a medical document where a doctor wrote that Monahan “states that she was in a very stressful environment for years, emotional and physical abuse by a partner with whom she is now separated.”


“She identifies the individual she was involved with as Congressman Ellison, and she is worried about retribution if she identifies him publicly,” the document added.

Ellison, who serves as deputy chair of the Democratic National Committee (DNC), decried Monahan’s story as “not true” and assured that an “ongoing investigation” will conclude that Monahan’s claims are false. He dismissed the medical record, saying it was written a year after his relationship with Monahan ended.

When pressed whether the investigation will be done before the election, Ellison said it’s an independent investigation and he remains uncertain about the timetable.



But his Republican opponent Doug Wardlow wasn’t satisfied with Ellison’s answer, saying Monahan’s claims won’t be reviewed by an actual independent investigator. “It’s not an independent investigation!” he said. “It’s independent by your friends and fellow party members. That’s not an independent investigation.”


The debate moderator brought up the issue of allegations of domestic abuse by both Monahan and a woman named Amy Alexander, who claimed in 2006 that he verbally abused her and pushed during a heated argument, saying they could be “a factor” in Ellison’s bid for the state attorney general.

Ellison denied Alexander’s allegations, saying she was “harassing” him and even put a restraining order against her so she stops “making falsehoods” against him. “So this is not multiple cases,” he said.

But Ellison stumbled to find words when the moderator continued to quiz him on Monahan and asked why he declined the offer to meet her together with the investigator.

“Well, because I -- we broke up two years ago for a reason,” Ellison said. “I didn’t want to be in the relationship and therefore, I left the relationship. And to get back in touch with her again is not something that I am interested in doing.”


The moderator then asked: “Are you confident that no one else will step forward with any other allegations?

“Look, in this political environment, I don’t know what somebody might cook up,” Ellison replied. “But I could tell you that there is absolutely nobody that I am aware of who has any sort of -- who is threatening or suggesting or who has ever made a prior accusation about me.”


His Republican opponent shot back at him, saying “two credible, strong allegations of domestic abuse is enough.”

“There’s documentary evidence. We have a medical record where we have Monahan reported to her doctor the abuse that was going on,” he added.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...legations.html
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Old 09-24-2018, 08:37 PM   #79
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Like I said, many are calling for an FBI investigation. The purpose of an investigation is to gather evidence. So, all of them?

And "presumed innocent" is a rule about who has the burden of proof in criminal cases. It has no application to this elaborate job interview.


Do you think Democrats should call or an FBI Investigation in this case?:


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Old 09-24-2018, 08:52 PM   #80
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https://twitter.com/KarenMonahan01/s...518144/photo/1

I don't believe that pic is her.....
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Old 09-24-2018, 10:17 PM   #81
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Kamala Harris wore all black to honor domestic abuse victims


She wore a hijab to remember Ellison
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There's a lot more to substantiate these allegations than those which are getting a lot more media play in the confirmation hearings
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There's a lot more to substantiate these allegations than those which are getting a lot more media play in the confirmation hearings
Wow. Tell us more Captain Obvious.
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https://twitter.com/KarenMonahan01/s...518144/photo/1

I would say they should call for investigation by the local authorities. A criminal investigation. (I don't believe the FBI would have jurisdiction).
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I don't believe that pic is her.....
And you would be correct


BanHam obviously not clicking the links he posts




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I think you need to investigate what you're posting just a little bit better. Like, you know, clicking on the links and seeing where they take you?
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Well, I believe there are a number of them calling for an FBI investigation prior to the continued committee hearings.

What do you consider "due process" for this non-criminal, non-civil, non-litigation, job interview? If there's no video or physical evidence, just dismiss the allegation out of hand?
what other choice do they have? There is nothing to investigate. He's already been investigated by the FBI, his friends, co-workers, family etc. going back decades have already been talked to in 6 previous investigations...

They are supposed to do another one? "hey, btw... that Kavanaugh guy I asked you about..."

"Oh yeah, I forgot the last time you asked... he raped a bunch of people in high school. Not sure why I didn't mention that last time, silly me."


Again, you don't actually believe this shit. you're just being a partisan hack.
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Like I said, many are calling for an FBI investigation. The purpose of an investigation is to gather evidence. So, all of them?

And "presumed innocent" is a rule about who has the burden of proof in criminal cases. It has no application to this elaborate job interview.
THERE IS NO EVIDENCE TO GATHER!

- SHE DOESN'T KNOW WHEN
- SHE DOESN'T KNOW WHERE
- SHE DOESN'T KNOW ANYONE WHO WAS AT THE PARTY? WTF?
- SHE DIDN'T TELL ANYONE. NO ONE. NOT FRIENDS, NOT PARENTS, NO ONE.
- THE ALLEGED INCIDENT WAS 35+ YEARS AGO

Please tell me what the f the FBI is supposed to investigate? If you are the FBI, what is your first step in this investigation?
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Juries do it all the time. They don't "know" the truth. The come to a conclusion about who they believe.
Bullshit, they come to a conclusion about the evidence presented and if it satisfies the requirement of "beyond a reasonable doubt".
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Bullshit, they come to a conclusion about the evidence presented and if it satisfies the requirement of "beyond a reasonable doubt".
In civil cases, it's a preponderance of the evidence, which means 51%.

And juries decide cases based solely upon testimony all the time.

(And this isn't even a civil case. It's a job interview.)
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