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Old 09-18-2018, 09:12 AM  
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Keith Ellison domestic violence accuser says Democratic party doesn't believe her sto

Will Ellison get Frankened over this as a sacrifice to the Kavanaugh obstruction?

The woman who accused Minnesota Democratic Rep. Keith Ellison of domestic abuse said on Monday that Democrats don’t believe her story and threatened to isolate her over the allegations.

Karen Monahan, a former girlfriend, came forward last month alleging that Ellison sent her threatening text messages and once screamed obscenities at her as he dragged her off a bed by her feet.

Ellison has denied the accusations, saying he “never behaved this way.” He did acknowledge he was in a relationship with the woman.

The allegations didn’t lead to any immediate action against the congressman, except for the announcement that the Democratic National Committee (DNC) would review the accusations. He went on to win the Democratic primary election for Minnesota attorney general.

Monahan slammed the Democratic Party for its response to her allegations when compared to its treatment of Christine Blasey Ford. Ford has accused Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of attempting to force himself onto her during at a high school party nearly four decades ago, prompting prominent Democrats to get behind Ford’s allegations.

“No, they don't,” Monahan tweeted in response to a question whether the party believes women’s stories. “I've been smeared, threatened, isolated from my own party. I provided medical records from 2017, stating on two different Dr. Visits, I told them about the abuse and who did it. My therapist released records stating I have been dealing and healing from the abuse.”

She added: “Four people, including my supervisor at the time, stated that I came to them after and shared the exact story I shared publicly, I shared multiple text between me and Keith, where I discuss the abuse with him and much more. As I said before, I knew I wouldn't be believed.”

Her comment came after another user pointed to comments made by Peter Daou, a Democratic strategist and former advisor to Hillary Clinton and John Kerry, who wrote in a tweet that the Kavanaugh accuser will be “attacked, smeared, and demonized” and that people must “believe women.”

Many other Democrats and progressives – who stayed silent when the accusations against Ellison emerged – came out in support of Ford, including Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders and Tom Perez, chairman of the DNC, who urged to investigate the claims and Kavanaugh.

Monahan went to reiterate that her story has nothing to do with politics. “I have nothing to prove to anyone, I simply shared my story. People can believe it or not. I don’t need anyone to affirm my humanity, I affirmed it,” she wrote in another tweet.

“The fact that both parties only care if it scores political points is hypocritical,” she added. “Do you think a person who has dealt with any form of abuse by politicians is thinking about politics? No, we & are families are trying to heal.”

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Old 09-26-2018, 02:08 PM   #136
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The question of course is if those expressing such concern over a woman's allegations of abuse being heard in one case have that same level of concern in another.

The obvious answer is no.

Why would that be? What is the differentiating factor between the Ellison and Kavanaugh situations?
You might have a case if anyone here was defending him.

Otherwise you are confusing us correcting Republican defense of kavanaugh with super extra concern.
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Old 09-26-2018, 02:33 PM   #137
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In whose eyes? Mine? Yeah. It really was. That ****ing rapist perjured himself.
You think he raped Monica Lewinsky?
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Old 09-26-2018, 02:36 PM   #138
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You think he raped Monica Lewinsky?
Nah, but.....

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Old 09-26-2018, 02:38 PM   #139
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You think he raped Monica Lewinsky?
Do you believe Hillary attacked Bill's victims?
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Old 09-26-2018, 02:47 PM   #140
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You think he raped Monica Lewinsky?
Do you think the most powerful man in the world should stick a cigar inside a 23 year old unpaid intern's pussy inside the oval office?
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Old 09-26-2018, 03:03 PM   #141
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Well, you could give it a shot, but unless you're under 19, I'm guessing you may have some trouble with the statute of limitations, not to mention the issue of consent.
Nope not under 19 and have been out of HS for decades.

There aren’t statue of limitations anymore we’re seeing it in the media today.

Consent has nothing to do with allegations of sexual assault.
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Old 09-26-2018, 03:39 PM   #142
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The question of course is if those expressing such concern over a woman's allegations of abuse being heard in one case have that same level of concern in another.

The obvious answer is no.

Why would that be? What is the differentiating factor between the Ellison and Kavanaugh situations?
Very little...Ellison should be kicked to the curb. Period.

Just like Mr. Franken and any other man that assaults a woman.
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Old 09-26-2018, 03:46 PM   #144
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You might have a case if anyone here was defending him.

Otherwise you are confusing us correcting Republican defense of kavanaugh with super extra concern.
The question isn't why you aren't defending Ellison.

The question is why you aren't speaking out on behalf of his accusers and against those who the accusers claim are oppressing them.
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Old 09-26-2018, 03:47 PM   #145
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Very little...Ellison should be kicked to the curb. Period.

Just like Mr. Franken and any other man that assaults a woman.
Thank you for your unbiased, consistent reply.
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Old 09-26-2018, 04:27 PM   #146
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Ok.

So just to be clear, you think this accomplished, PhD university professor made this up out of whole cloth just to derail BK's confirmation. Is that about right? You're convinced she's lying? Not embellishing, but outright lying?
So just to be clear, you think this accomplished, unanimously appointed appellate court judge, nominated to the supreme court of the united states, whose undergone 6 FBI investigations vetting him for these lofty positions, without a blemish on his record for his entire life, is outright lying, not deflecting... but outright lying?

Without any evidence WHATSOEVER, there is no way to know who is telling the truth. The burden of proof in on the accuser.
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I think they are just mad at how boring these threads are because liberals aren't rushing to defend him like republicans do for their team.

They are simple minded, and the simple minded project their flaws onto others.

/investigate and remove him if need be
//otherwise nobody cares conservatives, we aren't you, mindlessly defending anyone on our team
I do find myself defending kavanaugh, but it's not so much kavanaugh i'm defending as it is the principles of our country. It's one of the things that makes us who we are.

Seemingly everything that made this country great to begin with, and it is F-ING GREAT, is under attack by the left.
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Do you believe Hillary attacked Bill's victims?
I don't think she raped anyone. With the possible exception of Bill.
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Do you think the most powerful man in the world should stick a cigar inside a 23 year old unpaid intern's pussy inside the oval office?
I would say no.
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Nope not under 19 and have been out of HS for decades.

There aren’t statue of limitations anymore we’re seeing it in the media today.
Yes, in fact, there are.

Not sure where you're getting your information from. It's the reason that Gloria Allred has her clients suing Bill Cosby make public statements about what happened, and then when he publicly calls them liars, she sues him for defamation.
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