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Old 12-30-2015, 12:48 PM  
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Old 01-01-2016, 12:45 AM   #16
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Not reading spoilers...just watched first episode..DAMN.

Drove by there on the way to GB.. Stayed in Appleton..
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Old 01-01-2016, 10:02 AM   #17
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Just binged this with my wife. We loved it. I cannot say 100% that Steve didnt murder Teresa, but the investigation and the way the State proceeded in court makes me think there is no way he was convicted. The Prosecutor gave me a bad vibe from his first press conference. Turns out he was a complete scumbag. I am glad people are making his life hell. The kids first attorney as well.

I know the documentary is completely biased, but damn, I thought enough money could get you a defense to get out of just about everything. Steve's defense team was awesome.

Did anyone else find Teresa's brother to be an absolute media whore? It seemed he was having press confrences as much as the lawyers by the end of the trial. I couldnt imagine doing that if my sister was murdered.

Also, people in rural Wisconsin sure are ugly.
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Old 01-01-2016, 11:06 AM   #18
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The brother and ex boyfriend totally gave me a creepy vibe...I think the ex knew more than he let on...
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Old 01-01-2016, 11:08 AM   #19
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What about the German man? Any DNA evidence on her car should have been tossed with the simple EDTA test being ineffective. Its pretty easy to consider that as SA worked at a salvage yard he may have had to check on a dead battery perhaps? or how about lack of fingerprints, did he remove the battery cables with his mouth? DNA easily planted, fingerprints not so much, none found.
Who doesnt occasionally want to open the door for a woman in just a towel, not saying TH was a hottie but a hell of a lot better looking than his women of choice.
If she truly requested to not be sent out to the property than her boss would be held accountable for damages to a degree in most states.
Never going after any other suspects? Ex boyfriend who erased phone messages? Had scratches on his hands? Was allowed on the property while it was off limits.
No on in their right mind can say that there was enough evidence to convict when all the shady stuff went down with law enforcement.
One thing I didnt ever see was were the bones truly hers? DNA proof it was her? How bad are the investigators when you scour a property and if you didnt plant it you MISSED ALL their damning evidence the first, what, 5 times?
The town didnt want them and in a small community like that the "ruling class" are just that.
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Old 01-01-2016, 11:22 AM   #20
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Through four episodes.

At this point, all I'll say is that the level of corruption is not only astounding, it's downright frightening.
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Old 01-01-2016, 11:54 AM   #21
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Where could I read more about how "Avery was obsessed with her" or how "she asked her bosses to never send her out to Avery's place again because she felt threatened by him"?
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That can't be it. Given the way he was going on about people taking the documentary at face value, he must have looked into all those things that weren't covered and found factual reports to back them up.

Surely he didn't just read something and take it at face value. Surely!
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Old 01-01-2016, 11:58 AM   #22
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Great documentary.

I've recently moved to GB and when this thing occured it got so much publicity. It's roughly 40 mins from GB.

Kratz (sp?) and Kachenski are real pieces of work.

This documentary definitely gets your mind wondering how corrupt our court/law systems may be.
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Old 01-01-2016, 07:25 PM   #23
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No way Steve Avery committed this crime.
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Old 01-02-2016, 01:28 AM   #24
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The amount of incompetence on all sides was astounding and I really think they had out for the Avery family. Having said that he could still very well be guilty. The nephew however I think is just severely mentally handicapped and probably didn't do anything
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Old 01-02-2016, 05:26 AM   #25
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The amount of incompetence on all sides was astounding and I really think they had out for the Avery family. Having said that he could still very well be guilty. The nephew however I think is just severely mentally handicapped and probably didn't do anything
He ate really well in prison too.
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Old 01-02-2016, 10:14 AM   #26
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No way Steve Avery committed this crime.
Oh he could have committed it, imo there's no way he should have been convicted of it...
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Old 01-02-2016, 10:28 AM   #27
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According to that creep prosecutor Kratz, the documentary left out things like Avery requesting Teresa personally to come take the photos, calling her three times the day of the disappearance blocking his number using *67 twice, and her already being creeped out by him for answering the door on a previous visit wearing only a towel. Also supposedly there was DNA from Avery (not blood) under the hood of her Toyota.

While none of this is enough to convict him, if true its pretty hard to believe he didn't murder her. Even so, I still think Lenk and that other shady bastard planted evidence to ensure his conviction and the prosecution did not provide enough credible evidence to convict.

I dont know what to think about Dassey, one part of me believes that he was just a dumbass that was manipulated by the detectives' suggestive questioning but another part of me finds it difficult to believe anyone would make up that much horrific detail.
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Old 01-02-2016, 10:40 AM   #28
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I dont know what to think about Dassey, one part of me believes that he was just a dumbass that was manipulated by the detectives' suggestive questioning but another part of me finds it difficult to believe anyone would make up that much horrific detail.
Kids and those with retarded mental ability are much more prone to suggestion and leading questions than others. Even making up wholly fantastical stories that no serious person would ever think were true. See the satanic child abuse panic and West Memphis 3 cases.
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The book Dassey mentions, has anyone read it? if so then do those things actually happen in the book?
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