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Old 11-14-2017, 01:24 PM   Topic Starter
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Alright, gun rights folks. You say the problem is mental health.

For years on this forum and pretty much anywhere I discuss gun control with 2nd amendment absolutists like many on this forum, I argue that we need gun control in various forms.

In addition to some of the more radical notions that "2nd amendment rights" are absolute, I also frequently hear that America actually has a mental health problem, not a gun problem.

This is an argument that many of you have aired.

So, I am asking for what policies you want to be seen to deal with mental illness.

Here we have a kid losing his shit on social media, and by all accounts is probably at-risk for doing something horrendous at some point (NSFW):



Feel free to ignore the text that frames the video by Occupy Democrats, as it's worthless. Focus on my question.

Now, obviously losing your shit in front of a camera does not mean you will shoot up a crowd of people, but I think if we're all putting together a profile of someone who could eventually do that, he fits the profile. (Also, imagine if this guy were black or Muslim.)

What is it, exactly, that the gun enthusiasts in this forum who believe America's problem is mental health, suggest that we do with this individual?

C'mon, folks. You told me the problem is mental health policy. Explain to me how you fix it to address people who fly off the handle and say crazy, violent shit like this.
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Old 11-14-2017, 01:30 PM   #2
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Old 11-14-2017, 01:46 PM   #3
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I see a fine white conservative evangelical gentleman expressing his constitutional rights of freedom of speech as well as his constitutional right to bear arms.

Freaking libtards - everything has to be about race....

Oh yeah - Hillary uranium , Obama Muslim.

Ok now we have the typical responses out of the way.....

We have both gun and mental health issues. Solve the easiest one - the one that can do the most harm. No one needs a military style weapon for home defense or hunting.
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Old 11-14-2017, 01:47 PM   #4
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I see a fine white conservative evangelical gentleman expressing his constitutional rights of freedom of speech as well as his constitutional right to bear arms.

Freaking libtards - everything has to be about race....

Oh yeah - Hillary uranium , Obama Muslim.

Ok now we have the typical responses out of the way.....

We have both gun and mental health issues. Solve the easiest one - the one that can do the most harm. No one needs a military style weapon for home defense or hunting.
You fool. If you use a bazooka for hunting, that's a hunting rifle.
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Old 11-14-2017, 01:49 PM   #5
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You fool. If you use a bazooka for hunting, that's a hunting rifle.
I stand corrected.
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Old 11-14-2017, 02:54 PM   #6
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We have both gun and mental health issues. Solve the easiest one - the one that can do the most harm. No one needs a military style weapon for home defense or hunting.
There you go again...channeling that libtard Ronald Reagan again.
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Old 11-14-2017, 03:22 PM   #7
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Most gun related incidents are suicides so yes it's a mental health issue. Secondly most murders are committed in Urban areas. That's a cultural/economic issue.
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Old 11-14-2017, 03:25 PM   #8
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Most gun related incidents are suicides so yes it's a mental health issue.
No.

It's just the method.
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Old 11-14-2017, 03:09 PM   #9
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No one needs a military style weapon for home defense or hunting.
F'in Cosmo...

The first amendment isn't about being able to have plays or shows of your choice, just as the 2nd amendment isn't about home defense are hunting.

They are constitutional rights that were written to check the powers of the Federal government. If they ever start infringing on my rights, I do not want to die holding a .410 shotgun and a .22 rifle.
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Old 11-14-2017, 05:10 PM   #10
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I see a fine white conservative evangelical gentleman expressing his constitutional rights of freedom of speech as well as his constitutional right to bear arms.

Freaking libtards - everything has to be about race....

Oh yeah - Hillary uranium , Obama Muslim.

Ok now we have the typical responses out of the way.....

We have both gun and mental health issues. Solve the easiest one - the one that can do the most harm. No one needs a military style weapon for home defense or hunting.
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They abducted Cosmo as well. He complained when they tried to release him without anally probing him.
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Sorry, I'm not an evangelical conservative. I don't do ass play or sexually molest children.

But I guess it's pretty normal thing in the circles you run with....
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Old 11-14-2017, 08:07 PM   #11
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No one needs a military style weapon for home defense or hunting.
And you are more than welcome to try and come confiscate them from those that disagree with you. But will you? Nope. Cause you’re too chickenshit to try, ****ing pussy, so instead you try to have politicians do it for you, or other people with families risk their lives to accomplish your goal. Because you’re a pussy and have no idea what the cost of freedom actually is. You’re a ****ing pathetic piece of shit too.
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Old 11-14-2017, 08:39 PM   #12
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No one needs a military style weapon for home defense or hunting.
youre an uneducated idiot

this has been explained to you man many times and yet you still lie , and /or are too stupid to understand this

there is no such thing as 'military style'

a weapon is either semi automatic or fully automatic

the 'style' is a bunch of bullshit made to keep lawmakers in business ...it is basically a COSMETIC difference when you are talkign about style, and the FUNCTION (action of the rifle) is the same



.all semi auto weapons have the same action: (go to 5:00 to see the action)



take 10 minutes, watch this video and actually educate yourself or you have no business talking about this subject. this is not the 1st time that i have linked you this video. So **** you in advance for ignoring the information and continuing to spout a bunch of ignorant bullshit everywhere you go on a topic you know nothing about.

fully auto , real assault weapons have been basically illegal since the 80's.
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Old 11-15-2017, 12:14 AM   #13
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I see a fine white conservative evangelical gentleman expressing his constitutional rights of freedom of speech as well as his constitutional right to bear arms.

Freaking libtards - everything has to be about race....

Oh yeah - Hillary uranium , Obama Muslim.

Ok now we have the typical responses out of the way.....

We have both gun and mental health issues. Solve the easiest one - the one that can do the most harm. No one needs a military style weapon for home defense or hunting.


I didn't realize the 2nd amendment was about home defense or hunting. I was fooled into believing it was more about the citizens control of our employees (government) if we were faced with tyranny.

I guess I learned something today.
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Old 11-14-2017, 01:37 PM   #14
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It's mental health. That kid has a serious mental health issue.

I'm not sure I get what you're trying to prove here. I don't want that kid to have access to guns because he's clearly a ****ing nut.
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Old 11-14-2017, 01:43 PM   #15
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It's mental health. That kid has a serious mental health issue.

I'm not sure I get what you're trying to prove here. I don't want that kid to have access to guns because he's clearly a ****ing nut.
I'm trying to get specific policy suggestions from the pro gun rights folks, like perhaps yourself, who argue that mental health is the problem, not a lack of gun control.

So you're saying that the government should be able to survey social media, and when violent, vicious rhetoric is broadcast by one of these individuals, it should be reported to the government so that this individual should be banned from purchasing or possessing firearms?

I should note, by the way, that this doesn't really help his mental health. It just takes his guns.

If I'm misunderstanding your policy suggestion, please let me know.
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