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1. Chiefs outlast the Steelers 32-28 in the divisional round. But the Chiefs go to Foxborough and lose handily to the Patriots. GM John Dorsey leaves to become GM of the Green Bay Packers, because we are the Chiefs. Chris Ballard becomes the new GM. HC Andy Reid and QB Alex Smith are retained. 2. ILB Derrick Johnson does not retire, and will return like Justin Houston did this season. 3. RB Jamaal Charles renegotiates a contract down to 2 years, $4m; P Dustin Colquitt renegotiates his contract down to 2 years, $5m. 4. S Eric Berry is re-signed for 4 years, $44m ($19m guaranteed). 5. The Chiefs sign the following players at minimal deals: DE Kendall Reyes 6. The Chiefs tender the following players: WR Albert Wilson, S Daniel Sorensen, K Cairo Santos, LS James Winchester. 7. The following players walk in free agency: QB Nick Foles, RB Knile Davis, FB Trey Millard, OG Mike Person, NT Dontari Poe, DE Jarvis Jenkins 8. The following players are cut: TE Ross Travis, OLB Frank Zombo, CB Kenneth Acker 9. The Chiefs bring in 4 compensatory picks: a 3rd (Sean Smith), a 5th (Chase Daniel), and two 6ths (Donald Stephenson & Tyvon Branch). On with the show: 1.30. QB Deshaun Watson, Clemson I've seen grades for Watson all over the place, but here is the one I find most ingriguing: Quote:
The Chiefs will still operate by the Dorsey/Ballard method of drafting to replace future FAs, but you don't get any smarter or safer of a gamble by taking Deshaun Watson, a QB with a ton of tools and intangibles and a good fit for Andy Reid/Brad Childress's offense. Watson has franchise QB upside, and the Chiefs know the spread offense as well as anyone, and can provide the best bridge to the pros for Watson should they take him. Alex Smith remains the starter, and probably plays out his contract. At which point, by 2019 (if not sooner), the Chiefs will have a two-year-seasoned QB in the wings with elite intangibles and lots of tools to potentially take this team to the next level. 2.61. NT Lowell Lotulelei, Utah The Chiefs have lost Poe in this hypothetical, in part because he's too pricey, and also in part because they need to plug in Chris Jones as a starter in 2017 and the best way to do that is by moving Jaye Howard to the NT. Howard has played well at NT in spot duty, but he is a free agent after the 2017 season. The Chiefs like T.J. Barnes in spot duty, but he probably isn't an NFL starter. Lotulelei almost certainly is, however. He's not as dominant as Star, but he's a guy who should clog up the gut of the OL. 3.92. RB Alvin Kamara, Tennessee Not a power back, who I've been in the custom of taking in the off chance we lose Ware for a game or two. Neither Jamaal or Charcandrick are smashmouth RBs, but I'm going to say that Dorsey/Ballard will opt for the perfect fit for Andy Reid's offense in Kamara than he will try to shoehorn in a bigger-bodied back into the Chiefs offense. Kamara is a ton of fun to watch, and could dart up draft boards after the Combine. 3.98 (compensatory). CB Howard Wilson, Houston A long, rangey CB who can redshirt for a year like Steven Nelson did. With Mitchell, the Chiefs are currently four-deep at CB -- five deep if you count DJ White (which I don't). Wilson has NFL starter upside. 4.128. OLB Tarell Basham, Ohio A physically gifted athlete who has some passrushing chops at the FBS level, with physical tools that can translate to the next level. With Tamba still in the fold in this hypothetical, the Chiefs have three really good OLBs ahead of Basham, allowing him a good season or two to groom and develop. 5.167. ILB Marquel Lee, Wake Forest 5.173 (compensatory). WR Chad Hansen, California 6.204 (compensatory). TE Hayden Plinke, Texas-El Paso 6.210 (compensatory). OT/G J.J. Dielman, Utah 7.251. QB Sefo Liufau, Colorado Physical specimen who will need significant time to work on the mental aspect on the game, a la Tyler Bray. |
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QB: Smith, Watson, Bray vs. Liufau
RB: Ware, Charles, Kamara, West FB: Sherman WR: Maclin, Hill, Conley, Wilson, Thomas, Hansen TE: Kelce, Harris, O'Shaughnessy, Plinke LT: Fisher, Schwartz LG: Ehinger, Fulton C: Morse, Fulton RG: Duvarney-Tardif, Dielman RT: Schwartz, Reid, Witzmann DE: Jones, Reyes NT: Howard, Lotulelei, Barnes DE: Bailey, Nunez-Roches OLB: Ford, Hali ILB: Mauga, March ILB: Wilson, Lee, Johnson (PUP) OLB: Houston, Basham CB: Peters, Mitchell, Nelson, Gaines, Wilson, White S: Berry, Parker, Sorensen, Murray K: Santos P: Colquitt LS: Winchester |
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Two qbs? Made sense when Washington was against the wall but that would push out everyone but smith now and leave us with now system experienced back up unless they can stash one on ir.
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You do this every year man all the guys in the draft are never #1 on the depth chart!
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Watson at #30?
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More likely than Kamara at 92.
I don't think he sees the end of round 2 after the combine results allow him to show off his explosiveness. Dude's going to be electric as a pass-catcher out of the backfield from day 1 and will eventually be a solid 200-225 carry back as well, IMO.
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That's not going to happen.
He'll go Top 5 because he's a QB and there are QB needy teams like the Browns, Jets, 49ers, Bills, etc. Trubisky started only 1 year in college, which will scare off a lot of teams. While I think that Watson needs to sit for at least a full season, if not 24 games, he won big in college and there will be a team or two that falls in love with him. |
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Watson's a perfect late 1st prospect in that a team that has a fringe/average QB can make due with that guy until Watson's ready. Honestly, he'd seem to be a nice fit for the Texans. The Texans are stuck with Osweiler for another year anyway due to his contract so they could draft Watson, sit him behind Osweiler and when Osweiler is cutable again, they can turn over the keys.
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So what do we think the trade-up cost would be to get to, say, 8th overall?
2017: 1st, 2nd 2018: 1st, 3rd Think that gets it done? Seems like it would be in the ballpark. And Carolina's a team with a young QB and a fair number of smaller issues but nothing seemingly catastrophic; they may be willing to move down further than most teams. If you're willing to be extremely aggressive, that seems to be the money spot, does it not? If Kizer or Trubisky fell out of the top 5 and you felt like one of them were your guy, that's probably where you have to get. Jumps you ahead of the Bills and the Browns 2nd pick (a natural spot for their QB selection). Otherwise you're going to have to give up a 1st and 2nd to move up around Baltimore's spot and grab Mahomes and frankly, that's a roll of the dice as I could see him easily not making it to 16. My early WAG as to quarterback selections without trades: 49ers (2): Trubisky Jets: (6): Kizer Browns (12): Mahomes Texans (25): Watson I think trades shake this up a fair amount but you can't predict 'em so this is my best guess based on a stock draft order. If Mahomes slid into the teens, I'd be working the phones pretty hard to get up there for him.
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