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Old 12-09-2018, 11:37 PM  
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Ravens cry foul over noncall on final play of loss to Chiefs

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As Ravens quarterback Robert Griffin III dropped back to pass on what proved to be the final play of Sunday’s game, the odds were not good.

The Ravens were down a field goal in overtime. Starting quarterback Lamar Jackson was out with an ankle injury. Under two minutes remained. The team faced a fourth-and-22 from its 41-yard line. According to ESPN, the Kansas City Chiefs’ win probability was over 79 percent.

But after the pass fell incomplete and the 27-24 overtime loss was sealed, the Ravens were unhappy the game hadn’t lasted at least a play longer. Coach John Harbaugh, wide receiver Willie Snead IV and Griffin said the officials missed a pass-interference penalty on Chiefs cornerback and Baltimore native Kendall Fuller.

The penalty would’ve produced an automatic Ravens first down and kept alive their hopes for a game-tying field goal or game-winning touchdown.

“Yeah, I saw it,” Harbaugh said. “I think you guys should write what you see. You want us to get up here and criticize the officiating. You saw the officiating all day. You know what it was. You should write what you see. You don’t get fined for it, right?” (Coaches are subject to NFL fines for criticism of the officiating.)

Griffin said he didn’t have a chance to warm up before entering the game facing a third-and-22. His first throw was an incompletion, and after Jackson did not return to the huddle, the team’s third-string quarterback dropped back one final time.

He targeted Snead, running an out-breaking route close to the line to gain. “I was like, ‘I got a chance here,’ ” Snead recalled thinking. Had he made a sixth catch Sunday, the reception might have come up just short of the 37-yard line he needed to reach.

But he said he felt premature contact from Fuller, and Griffin saw the same.

“I mean, of course I did,” said Snead, who had a team-high 61 yards. “I thought that. At the end of the day, it’s out of my control. I got to catch the ball, but I felt like I would’ve been short anyways, but at the end of the day, there was contact. But it is what it is. You just got to learn from it and move on.”

He added: “There were calls we could’ve got all over the game, but at the end of the day, it came down to that play. I didn’t get the call. At the end of the day, I didn’t get the catch.”

Griffin, who said he hadn’t been able to watch a replay of the coverage, blamed himself for not throwing a better pass. But he pointed to the Ravens’ indignant sideline reaction as a reflection of his own perception of the noncall.

“I felt like Willie ran a great route and the DB got there a little early, and they didn't call it,” Griffin said. “It makes me feel a little bad. I feel like I let the team down in that situation. I was ready to go and I tried to do the best I could at that time. Just wish I could've done more."
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Old 12-10-2018, 07:37 AM   #46
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Old 12-10-2018, 07:42 AM   #47
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Old 12-10-2018, 07:43 AM   #48
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Officiating, as usual in today's NFL, was pretty atrocious for the entire game. The play in question was a penalty, not because of the contact right at the end of the play, that was actually a really good play by Fuller. No, it was a penalty because of the contact that occured just before that. Clear holding at best, PI at worst. Am I upset that it wasn't called? Nope. It wasn't out and out blatant, but is most often called, and you can't expect the refs to bail you out like that.

What I took more offense too was the blatant late hit on the QB by the Chiefs that knocked Jackson (I think it was that play) out of the game. First Chief had the QB down, and a second Chief essentially speared the QB with a pretty vicious hit that has consistently been called roughing all year. Now, Mahomes had several hits that should also have been called roughing. So it probably evens out.
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Old 12-10-2018, 07:47 AM   #49
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Officiating, as usual in today's NFL, was pretty atrocious for the entire game. The play in question was a penalty, not because of the contact right at the end of the play, that was actually a really good play by Fuller. No, it was a penalty because of the contact that occured just before that. Clear holding at best, PI at worst. Am I upset that it wasn't called? Nope. It wasn't out and out blatant, but is most often called, and you can't expect the refs to bail you out like that.

What I took more offense too was the blatant late hit on the QB by the Chiefs that knocked Jackson (I think it was that play) out of the game. First Chief had the QB down, and a second Chief essentially speared the QB with a pretty vicious hit that has consistently been called roughing all year. Now, Mahomes had several hits that should also have been called roughing. So it probably evens out.
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Officiating, as usual in today's NFL, was pretty atrocious for the entire game. The play in question was a penalty, not because of the contact right at the end of the play, that was actually a really good play by Fuller. No, it was a penalty because of the contact that occured just before that. Clear holding at best, PI at worst. Am I upset that it wasn't called? Nope. It wasn't out and out blatant, but is most often called, and you can't expect the refs to bail you out like that.

What I took more offense too was the blatant late hit on the QB by the Chiefs that knocked Jackson (I think it was that play) out of the game. First Chief had the QB down, and a second Chief essentially speared the QB with a pretty vicious hit that has consistently been called roughing all year. Now, Mahomes had several hits that should also have been called roughing. So it probably evens out.
Im not going to argue the first part even though I very much disagree, but the second paragraph is nonsense. He wasnt down
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This time we responded to their best shot and landed a knockout. That defense was shell shocked after Pat completed that miraculous 4th down.
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Fuller made the type of play on that ball that is made all day long on Sundays, and isn't called PI. Like with holding, PI can be called on pretty much any pass play. They receiver and D back are pretty much always hand fighting and grabbing a bit. Hell, Fuller did much less that had been going on all day. Finally, you simply can't call that on 4th and 22 unless it's just plain blatant. Nobody wants the refs controlling the games outcomes. It was a good non call.
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Officiating, as usual in today's NFL, was pretty atrocious for the entire game. The play in question was a penalty, not because of the contact right at the end of the play, that was actually a really good play by Fuller. No, it was a penalty because of the contact that occured just before that. Clear holding at best, PI at worst. Am I upset that it wasn't called? Nope. It wasn't out and out blatant, but is most often called, and you can't expect the refs to bail you out like that.

What I took more offense too was the blatant late hit on the QB by the Chiefs that knocked Jackson (I think it was that play) out of the game. First Chief had the QB down, and a second Chief essentially speared the QB with a pretty vicious hit that has consistently been called roughing all year. Now, Mahomes had several hits that should also have been called roughing. So it probably evens out.
No, Jackson wasn't down, and further more, had moved left out of the pocket and pulled the ball down-i.e. he's a runner. Houston grabbed him by the legs, and Ford popped him pretty good, but it was clean. If you're going to play as a hybrid RB/QB, you're going to take hits like that when you leave the pocket.
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Im not going to argue the first part even though I very much disagree, but the second paragraph is nonsense. He wasnt down
I'm just reporting what I've observed with what has been called roughing the passer this year, and similar plays have been called often.
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