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Old 09-16-2014, 04:19 PM  
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Eric Fisher sucked against Denver. Proof inside!

On these 20 plays, he is not doing a good job. 20/75 is 27 percent. If your LT is sucking 27 percent of the time, he deserves a poor grade.

Let's go to the tape, homers! Suckage presented in chronological order. Gifs will load in post #2 and #3.
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Old 09-16-2014, 05:48 PM   #61
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Where the **** do you get the coaches tape? Do you torrent it?
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They have the all 22 view too.
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Old 09-16-2014, 05:49 PM   #62
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Out of all those gifs i only saw two or three that were clear f ups. Fisher had a good game.

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Old 09-16-2014, 05:54 PM   #63
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Fisher gets picked up and slammed to the ground. Regardless of what impact that had on the play, that's a major ****up that only happens if you have poor technique, balance, and strength.

You do see 75 McGlynne tries put a chip on and instead knocks his own teammate Eric off balance. Fisher had the advantage at the snap dumb ply by 75 who didn't get off the ball fast enough to get a chip. He should have just gone field to find another block. That one is on 75.
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Old 09-16-2014, 05:54 PM   #64
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I've been ragging pretty hard on 75 but in half of Clays gifs (small sample size) he's doing his job better than anal-Fisher.

He's slower than Marino and clumsy but he still held his man...
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Old 09-16-2014, 05:54 PM   #65
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I completely defended picking Eric Fisher. I think it was logical and prudent.

The guy is a giant festering turd and he will never get better and he is Jamarcus Russell terrible.
Meh. I just don't care anymore. The 2013 was the worst draft maybe ever. It is what it is.
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Old 09-16-2014, 05:56 PM   #66
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Meh. I just don't care anymore. The 2013 was the worst draft maybe ever. It is what it is.
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Old 09-16-2014, 05:56 PM   #67
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I'm sure it was his job to end up on the ground, get ****ing body slammed or be driven three yards into the backfield.

Come on, man.
I said there were bad blocks in there. I am talking about how you conveniently sprinkled in lots of blocks where Fisher didn't necessarily create a great block, but did enough. And yeah, if Fisher's job is to turn his guy inside on a sweep? If Fisher's trying to cut his guy but McGlynn is slow to get out of the way? If Fisher seals a cutback lane but his teammates don't? You're making some massive assumptions about Fisher's assignment as well as the cutback lane.
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Old 09-16-2014, 05:57 PM   #68
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you conveniently sprinkled in lots of blocks where Fisher didn't necessarily create a great block, but did enough.
Disagree. I don't see this at all.

Even if half of what you say is true allowing 5 QB hits doesn't jive with "Eric Fisher had a good game!"
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Old 09-16-2014, 06:03 PM   #69
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Disagree. I don't see this at all.

Even if half of what you say is true allowing 5 QB hits doesn't jive with "Eric Fisher had a good game!"
Most people who said he had a good game have said his pass pro started to look rough toward the end of the game. I am not commenting on his pass pro because while some plays are pretty loosely thrown in there, there's some real bad ones. But in context, a lot of his problems look like fatigue.

The run blocking was very liberal. He did his job fine in a good chunk of those plays.
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Old 09-16-2014, 06:05 PM   #70
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This isn't a ****ing Algebra II test. You don't get "decent marks" if you fail on almost thirty percent of your snaps, and there isn't a curve in the NFL.
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Old 09-16-2014, 06:09 PM   #71
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This isn't a ****ing Algebra II test. You don't get "decent marks" if you fail on almost thirty percent of your snaps, and there isn't a curve in the NFL.
Failure on 30% of snaps based on what? Based on someone on CP evaluating what makes up a failed play?
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Old 09-16-2014, 06:12 PM   #72
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Failure on 30% of snaps based on what? Based on someone on CP evaluating what makes up a failed play?
Maybe I'm ****ing crazy, but if you move to get in front of someone as an offensive lineman, you are probably expected to not let them get past you, around you, or slam you to the ****ing ground.
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Old 09-16-2014, 06:17 PM   #73
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You do see 75 McGlynne tries put a chip on and instead knocks his own teammate Eric off balance. Fisher had the advantage at the snap dumb ply by 75 who didn't get off the ball fast enough to get a chip. He should have just gone field to find another block. That one is on 75.
Fisher's play is fine on that one. The blow up is on #80. Once you see that, you don't really need to keep going, because it shows that Clay is going to troll his own thread again.
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Old 09-16-2014, 06:27 PM   #74
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Maybe I'm ****ing crazy, but if you move to get in front of someone as an offensive lineman, you are probably expected to not let them get past you, around you, or slam you to the ****ing ground.
You're talking about one play. There are several plays in there that are no good. There are a good chunk that were played just fine. And if the context is to grade what we see as improvement, then yeah, it's fair to grade plays late in the game on a curve if fatigue led to some sloppy technique. Others where a teammate screwed up a blocking assignment and yet others where Smith should be savvy enough to work the pocket differently.

That doesn't fix everything. But that sure as shit cuts down that subjective 30 percent number by a wide margin.
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