Football Is Aaron Rodgers GROSSLY overrated? - Page 8

Hootie · 09-22-2014, 11:16 PM

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...ck-experiment/

I watched the entire GB/Det game and I must say...Rodgers has not gotten better at getting rid of the ball. He's got a lot of Alex Smith in him in that regard. He takes a TON of unnecessary sacks. It's bothersome. He also missed a wide open Jordy Nelson when trying to come back on 4th and 5 with a terrible pass 3 yards behind him in a clean pocket...

He's had 1 good playoff run. So has Joe Flacco.

Why does everyone think he's the best QB in the NFL?

I think he's top 5, certainly. But I also don't understand how Tony Romo is a choker, but Aaron Rodgers is not?

I have been grossly unimpressed with Rodgers this year...and in all honesty, the last few postseasons...super meh.

I've said this for a few years now, but...I'd take Russell Wilson over Aaron Rodgers and at this point, I don't even think it's close.

Also, Rodgers is nowhere near Peyton Manning (obvi) or IN HIS PRIME Tom Brady, let's be honest.

Kaepernick · 09-23-2014, 03:56 PM

Aaron Rodgers is the best Quarterback in football. Put him on the Seahawks and watch what would happen.

You sound like casual fans do, giving the QB too much credit for wins and too much blame for losses.

An elite QB can put the team on his back and make a difference turning some losses to wins. He can't turn water into wine. I thought you knew the difference.

sedated · 09-23-2014, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

...and let's not forget, Rodgers took over a team Favre was one freaking Favre away from taking to the Super Bowl

Lol, yeah just missing that arguably greatest QB ever.

sedated · 09-23-2014, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaepernick

Aaron Rodgers is the best Quarterback in football. Put him on the Seahawks and watch what would happen.

Win the super bowl?

The lowly Seahawks?

Kaepernick · 09-23-2014, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated

Win the super bowl?

The lowly Seahawks?

Well he is the one who said he would take Wilson over Rodgers, not me.

Kaepernick · 09-23-2014, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefer

+GB hasn't had a run game in over a decade

Bad running game and worse defense.

Green Bay has the 28th ranked scoring defense in the NFL and are dead last at stopping the run.

http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/team...fense-category

Maybe Rodgers should play nose guard since that is where the problem lies.

Sandy Vagina · 09-23-2014, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaepernick

Aaron Rodgers is the best Quarterback in football. Put him on the Seahawks and watch what would happen.

You sound like casual fans do, giving the QB too much credit for wins and too much blame for losses.

An elite QB can put the team on his back and make a difference turning some losses to wins. He can't turn water into wine. I thought you knew the difference.

That's just it though. You could put about 20 QBs on that Seahawks team and watch excellent results. Rodgers is a very good QB, no doubt. I don't think anyone should heavily debate that. But is he so great that he can overcome multiple team aspects of sucktitude? He can keep them looking respectable more times than not... but he can't make them great all by his lonesome.

This sounds familiar.

DeathByArrows · 09-23-2014, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

I think Brees, indeed, is overrated. I think he's really good, but definitely, again, not in the elite Manning/Brady tier.

Really, Hootie? I think the numbers tell a different story. Drew Brees is literally unstoppable throwing the football, his numbers are astronomical. He's obviously had the benefit of good receivers and a fantastic receiving tight end, but so have all the other great QBs in this league.

The only knock I have on Brees, and his ability compared to Rodgers/Manning/Brady are that he is pretty crappy on the road. His home numbers vs. his road numbers are pretty telling. I do think the dome has helped him tremendously.

Hootie · 09-23-2014, 04:32 PM

Lmao

I said Rodgers was overrated before the season started.

I actually watch the games...

He's really good...but I'd take Russell Wilson every time

Deberg_1990 · 09-23-2014, 05:01 PM

Id still take him over Derrick Johnson

**Mav** · 09-23-2014, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Lmao

I said Rodgers was overrated before the season started.

I actually watch the games...

He's really good...but I'd take Russell Wilson every time

I can agree with that. I think Russell Wilson is a top 5 qb right now.

**Baby Lee** · 09-23-2014, 05:30 PM

Rodgers amazes people [me included] with insanely accurate passes. This blinds people a bit to the metrics of his decision making and pressure performance.

Now if someone could do a Reeses Peanut Butter Cup commercial with Rodgers and Smith, you'd have another Montana.

You put your passing ability in my game management!!

Deberg_1990 · 09-23-2014, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...ck-experiment/

I watched the entire GB/Det game and I must say...Rodgers has not gotten better at getting rid of the ball. He's got a lot of Alex Smith in him in that regard. He takes a TON of unnecessary sacks. It's bothersome. He also missed a wide open Jordy Nelson when trying to come back on 4th and 5 with a terrible pass 3 yards behind him in a clean pocket...

He's had 1 good playoff run. So has Joe Flacco.

Why does everyone think he's the best QB in the NFL?

I think he's top 5, certainly. But I also don't understand how Tony Romo is a choker, but Aaron Rodgers is not?

I have been grossly unimpressed with Rodgers this year...and in all honesty, the last few postseasons...super meh.

I've said this for a few years now, but...I'd take Russell Wilson over Aaron Rodgers and at this point, I don't even think it's close.

Also, Rodgers is nowhere near Peyton Manning (obvi) or IN HIS PRIME Tom Brady, let's be honest.

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

I can agree with that. I think Russell Wilson is a top 5 qb right now.

I sort of go back and forth on Wilson. He's a lot like Joe Montana. Meaning he's sneaky good. His stats don't blow you our of the water but his intangibles are off the charts. Rarely makes a bad play.

splatbass · 09-23-2014, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerinMo

2 reasons for the decline:

1. Putrid O-line

2. Dana Carvey and Kevin Nealon.

mcaj22 · 09-23-2014, 08:45 PM

that GB team is putrid, and Dorsey comes from that tree like a fraud no different than Pioli with the Pats

Rodgers props up a really really bad roster, just like Brady does.

jd1020 · 09-23-2014, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaepernick

Well he is the one who said he would take Wilson over Rodgers, not me.

I probably would too, given the whole age thing.

09-22-2014, 11:16 PM
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Is Aaron Rodgers GROSSLY overrated? http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...ck-experiment/ I watched the entire GB/Det game and I must say...Rodgers has not gotten better at getting rid of the ball. He's got a lot of Alex Smith in him in that regard. He takes a TON of unnecessary sacks. It's bothersome. He also missed a wide open Jordy Nelson when trying to come back on 4th and 5 with a terrible pass 3 yards behind him in a clean pocket... He's had 1 good playoff run. So has Joe Flacco. Why does everyone think he's the best QB in the NFL? I think he's top 5, certainly. But I also don't understand how Tony Romo is a choker, but Aaron Rodgers is not? I have been grossly unimpressed with Rodgers this year...and in all honesty, the last few postseasons...super meh. I've said this for a few years now, but...I'd take Russell Wilson over Aaron Rodgers and at this point, I don't even think it's close. Also, Rodgers is nowhere near Peyton Manning (obvi) or IN HIS PRIME Tom Brady, let's be honest.
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09-23-2014, 04:32 PM	#113
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Lmao I said Rodgers was overrated before the season started. I actually watch the games... He's really good...but I'd take Russell Wilson every time
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09-23-2014, 05:01 PM	#114
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3914454	Id still take him over Derrick Johnson __________________ Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning: Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down. One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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09-23-2014, 05:30 PM	#116
Baby Lee Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $6838598	Rodgers amazes people [me included] with insanely accurate passes. This blinds people a bit to the metrics of his decision making and pressure performance. Now if someone could do a Reeses Peanut Butter Cup commercial with Rodgers and Smith, you'd have another Montana. You put your passing ability in my game management!! __________________ We need the kind of courage that can withstand the subtle corruption of the cynics - E.W.
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09-23-2014, 08:45 PM	#119
mcaj22 MVP Join Date: Feb 2010 Casino cash: $10014454	that GB team is putrid, and Dorsey comes from that tree like a fraud no different than Pioli with the Pats Rodgers props up a really really bad roster, just like Brady does.
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