Mackenzie Alexander turning scouts off

[RunKC]

Raymond Summerlin@RMSummerlin-NFL.com's @BuckyBrooks said CB Mackensie Alexander "turned a lot of people off with his interviews." "Not buying his act."

Terez Paylor also said on his podcast today that he's heard that Alexander did not do well on the blackboard at the combine.


Yeah..not a big fan.

[RunKC]

Truth be told, I really am warming up to TJ Green and like him way more than Alexander. He played in man coverage as a safety quite a bit at Clemson. He's got the height/speed/ length matrix down to make the transition. Dorsey's mentor did that with Damarious Randall in GB last year and it worked out extremely well, but I'm not the biggest fan of taking a pure developmental player in the first rd right now.

[O.city]

Peters ran a 4.5 40, no?

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by O.city

Peters ran a 4.5 40, no?

Yup. He also proved that he could play with fast receivers when he shut down Brandin Cooks.

But that is one of his few cons. Peters did get beat by some guys who have awesome lateral speed. Amari Cooper comes to mind. He gave Peters some trouble in Oakland.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Yup. He also proved that he could play with fast receivers when he shut down Brandin Cooks.

But that is one of his few cons. Peters did get beat by some guys who have awesome lateral speed. Amari Cooper comes to mind. He gave Peters some trouble in Oakland.

And Alexander did the same thing against Fuller and Shepard.

Dame near identical 40 times, arm lengths, 3 cones, and verticals.

Let's focus on the one inch difference in heighth and 8 less reps in the bench press though.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by staylor26

And Alexander did the same thing against Fuller and Shepard.

Dame near identical 40 times, arm lengths, 3 cones, and verticals.

Let's focus on the one inch difference in heighth and 8 less reps in the bench press though.

Those guys aren't fast laterally like Cooper or Cooks. They're roughly 7 second 3 cone guys. Cooper and Cooks ran 6.71 and 6.76 3 cones and have awesome lateral ability.

I don't mind one con, but when it's a combination of cons with his complete lack of ball skills, height, poor interviewing and poor football IQ when tested by teams at the combine, it takes him out of the 1st round convo for me.

And that's fine. It's great discussion. Hell I like Xavien Howard more than a lot of people.

As said before, I'll be very surprised if Alexander is our pick at 28. I think there's more talent there but that my opinion.

[O.city]

I'm curious where the complete lack of ball skills is coming from? The low int #s?

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by O.city

I'm curious where the complete lack of ball skills is coming from? The low int #s?

Yes. That is the sole reason, because there isn't anything on the tape that says he can't locate/make a play on the ball. It's a result of a lack of oppurtunities and playing in press coverage (when your eyes aren't on the ball).

[Al Bundy]

Originally Posted by RunKC

It amazes me that a ton of Chiefs fans I see say he's this years Peters. The hell if he's even half the prospect Peters was.

One of the worst things you can say about a DB nowadays is "he doesn't have proven ball skills". Today's NFL is impossible to simply cover well as a one-trick pony due to the rules. You have to take the ball away.
The guy hasn't shown ball skills. And he's had 2 years of tape.

Hell I think I'd rather have TJ Green at this point bc he's got the speed, length and ability that Alexander simply doesn't have.

Yes Chris Harris Jr. and Tyrann Matheiu are awesome short starting CB's. How many others are there? They rarely work out unless their slot guys.

The potential isn't there for me with this guy. He's overrated as hell.

I agree, Peterson was the best DB prospect last year and he would be the best prospect this year as well.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by O.city

I'm curious where the complete lack of ball skills is coming from? The low int #s?

Not trying to be argumentative, just curious.

[RunKC]

Let me ask you guys this:

Justin Burris played in the same conference and had fewer targets (44) than Alexander (57) last year and still got 1 INT and 7 passes defended. He also came off 2 seasons with a combined 2 INT's and 11 passes defended.

He has the height, strength (19 bench reps), fluid hips and allowed just 34.1% completion percentage allowed while having no broken tackles in 2015.
He's also never missed a game.

Why take Alexander round 1 when you can get the same talent but with better measurables/proven ball skills in round 2?

[O.city]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Let me ask you guys this:

Justin Burris played in the same conference and had fewer targets (44) than Alexander (57) last year and still got 1 INT and 7 passes defended. He also came off 2 seasons with a combined 2 INT's and 11 passes defended.

He has the height, strength (19 bench reps), fluid hips and allowed just 34.1% completion percentage allowed while having no broken tackles in 2015.
He's also never missed a game.

Why take Alexander round 1 when you can get the same talent but with better measurables/proven ball skills in round 2?

If he's better, why isn't he in the conversation for a first round pick?

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by O.city

If he's better, why isn't he in the conversation for a first round pick?

I think exposure has a lot to do with it. Playing for Clemson puts you in the spotlight.

Not saying the guy sucks. I just question whether he fits our scheme that much or I'd Dorsey would make that many exceptions for a player that early.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I think exposure has a lot to do with it. Playing for Clemson puts you in the spotlight.

Not saying the guy sucks. I just question whether he fits our scheme that much or I'd Dorsey would make that many exceptions for a player that early.

that many exceptions? like what?

that Peters is 1 inch taller? They are as close as can be in weight, arm length, vertical jump? that Mack has slightly bigger hands.. a faster 40 time?

must be the INTs.. as they both have swagger-type of personalities.