Home Mail Chat Wallpapers
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > The Lounge

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-02-2018, 05:51 PM  
BigRedChief BigRedChief is offline
Has a particular set of skills
 
BigRedChief's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: On the water
Casino cash: $39727
VARSITY
2018 STL Cardinals Thread

Opening day lineup

Fowler RF
Pham CF
Carpenter 3B
Ozuna LF
Martinez 1B
Molina C
Dejong SS
Wong 2B
Pitcher

Edit:
Matheny fired 07/14/2018




Opening Day Roster
Spoiler!

Last edited by BigRedChief; 07-17-2018 at 02:21 PM..
Posts: 62,099
BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2018, 10:21 PM   #3916
jd1020 jd1020 is offline
MVP
 

Join Date: Nov 2010
Casino cash: $22745
Quote:
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho View Post
To pull it back to the original context, though, it wouldn't take Schwarber and Russell to pry him away from Arizona, so I was way off base there.
If anything the Cubs might look to trade a pitcher (Quintana/Montgomery) than trade for another pitcher. They are looking at Darvish, Lester, Hamels, Hendricks, Quintana, Montgomery, Smyly, and Chatwood for starting pitcher options next season. There's legit no room to be trading position players like Schwarber for another one.
Posts: 19,909
jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2018, 10:17 AM   #3917
DJ's left nut DJ's left nut is online now
Still Dicking Bimbos At Home
 
DJ's left nut's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
Casino cash: $19199
And Schwarber was a credible OFer this year.

dWAR be damned - I would never ever EVER trust him past the 6th inning of a playoff game if I had a lead, but he's not a complete embarrassment out there in the Jose Martinez fashion.

I just don't see Schwarber as surpurflous at this point - y'all need the guy and you need him to be some approximation of what he was before the ASB (the guy after the ASB wasn't terribly useful). He's a second source of lefty run-production in the lineup and counting on Heyward to be that guy is a fools errand. I expect Rizzo rebounds a bit next season but you can't just do what the Cardinals did and have a single halfway decent lefty in your lineup.

I guess if you just stuck Happ out there full-time, he could end up being that guy given his splits as a switch hitter. But with Russell's issues, there's a chance he ends up being moved back to 2b. If so, you run into less of a lefty/righty issue and more of a 'who the hell plays LF for us' issue.

Bote to 3b and Bryant to LF fixes that question, I suppose. But I'd be reluctant to trust exactly what he is just yet. He was a fine hitter in the minors but nothing more than...fine. Give him a starters job and if you're lucky he's David Freese. Freese was, post-season notwithstanding....fine. And like Freese, Bote also has a bit of that 'older prospect' thing to him that makes you wonder how well he'll hold up; Freese was actually a significantly more accomplished minor league hitter than Bote was. I'm not sure how eager I'd be to trade away Schwarber to make a hole on the IF for 'Freese Light'.

Cubs have some questions and some potential answers but if I'm them, I don't move Schwarber until the trade deadline if someone ends up proving capable of replacing him out there.
__________________
"If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..."

"When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
Posts: 32,487
DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2018, 01:38 PM   #3918
jd1020 jd1020 is offline
MVP
 

Join Date: Nov 2010
Casino cash: $22745
The whole team outside of Rizzo and Baez was pretty embarrassing at the plate. The team started adopting the Chili Davis method of hitting and its the same method that murdered the Red Sox offense. The Cubs became the #1 team in ground ball rate at near 50%. All season the Cubs were struggling to get consistent offense beyond 2 or 3 games but in the 2nd half it was exceptionally pathetic.

Thankfully the Cubs didn't wait around 3 years and canned Chili yesterday.

I honestly dont imagine a scenario in which Happ is on this team next year. I don't buy into this whole flexibility bullshit too much. The guy can't hit anything above the belt. He's hours late on any high fastball. He's not a particularly good fielder either, just average. He was called up because of injuries and for some ****ing reason is still on the team when he doesn't fit.

He was a top 30 prospect when he was called up and showed potential in his first season so why wasnt he traded? Now all he did was lower his value by INCREASING his strikeout rate by 5% since last year. He also increased his walk rate by 6%. He simply stopped ****ing swinging.

Last edited by jd1020; 10-12-2018 at 01:47 PM..
Posts: 19,909
jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2018, 01:41 PM   #3919
DJ's left nut DJ's left nut is online now
Still Dicking Bimbos At Home
 
DJ's left nut's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
Casino cash: $19199
Oh man - hitting groundballs with little authority as a preferred approach?

I'll bet Jason Heyward was as hard as a diamond in an ice storm learning from that guy...

In closing - **** Jason Heyward.
__________________
"If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..."

"When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
Posts: 32,487
DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2018, 01:48 PM   #3920
jd1020 jd1020 is offline
MVP
 

Join Date: Nov 2010
Casino cash: $22745
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut View Post
Oh man - hitting groundballs with little authority as a preferred approach?

I'll bet Jason Heyward was as hard as a diamond in an ice storm learning from that guy...

In closing - **** Jason Heyward.
Ironically, the Cubs best hitter with RISP was Heyward with a .324/.423/.435 batting line in 131 PA.
Posts: 19,909
jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2018, 01:54 PM   #3921
DJ's left nut DJ's left nut is online now
Still Dicking Bimbos At Home
 
DJ's left nut's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
Casino cash: $19199
Quote:
Originally Posted by jd1020 View Post
Ironically, the Cubs best hitter with RISP was Heyward with a .324/.423/.435 batting line in 131 PA.
Wow - impressive.

You should extend him...
__________________
"If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..."

"When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
Posts: 32,487
DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2018, 01:55 PM   #3922
jd1020 jd1020 is offline
MVP
 

Join Date: Nov 2010
Casino cash: $22745
Probably just platoon him with Almora in CF or eat half his contract and trade him for a lottery ticket to sign Harper.
Posts: 19,909
jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2018, 01:57 PM   #3923
DJ's left nut DJ's left nut is online now
Still Dicking Bimbos At Home
 
DJ's left nut's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
Casino cash: $19199
Quote:
Originally Posted by jd1020 View Post
Probably just platoon him with Almora in CF or eat half his contract and trade him for a lottery ticket to sign Harper.
But who will give his speeches?
__________________
"If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..."

"When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
Posts: 32,487
DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2018, 01:59 PM   #3924
jd1020 jd1020 is offline
MVP
 

Join Date: Nov 2010
Casino cash: $22745
I don't think anyone can replace Heyward's speech. It's going into the Cubs HoF.
Posts: 19,909
jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2018, 02:06 PM   #3925
The Pest The Pest is offline
We ain't stopping! Bury 'em.
 
The Pest's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2006
Casino cash: $54114
Not that anyone cares.....but there isn't a Dodgers thread or anything (for obvious reasons)......but blow this shit up. Let Kershaw and Machado walk. **** this shit.
__________________
Posts: 66,538
The Pest is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Pest is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Pest is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Pest is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Pest is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Pest is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Pest is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Pest is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Pest is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Pest is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Pest is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2018, 11:03 AM   #3926
BigRedChief BigRedChief is offline
Has a particular set of skills
 
BigRedChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: On the water
Casino cash: $39727
VARSITY
Dewitt needs to open up the wallet. 3 million thru the turnstiles. Baseball Village is making tons of money. Great cable TV deal. Money is up from MLB. Multiple Reputable outlets reported that we offered Stanton $310 million. That’s on top of trading young talent. There is no excuse. He needs to open up the wallet wide.

3 years of no playoffs. I bet their bottom line will finally suffer unless they do something big this off season. Mo needs to change his negotiating strategy. The fans are not going to tolerate we were close BS. We gain $20 million yearly additional cap room with the end of Waino’s contract. There is no reason whatsoever the Cardinals can’t raise the payroll another $20 million.

Harper has in the past made several positive comments about the Cardinals and their fans. We may be able to entice him to play here. Mo needs to publicly, via a leak to reputable journalist, offer this tomorrow. The fans will know your serious. Other teams too. Sure some team may try to run up the money to **** with the Cardinals but they did this to them self’s by trying to be incremental in the off seasons. It’s past time to go big.

10 years/$350 million guaranteed contract
5 year opt-out clause at age 31

We get his best prime years if he leaves, he gets family generational changing money.

If some other team offers him the same deal, you go to $400 million. They have put themselves in this position. They need to be bold and take the risk.
__________________
“Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
/Oscar Wilde
Posts: 62,099
BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2018, 12:13 PM   #3927
VAChief VAChief is offline
Comfortably Numb
 

Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Virginia
Casino cash: $5942
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigRedChief View Post
Dewitt needs to open up the wallet. 3 million thru the turnstiles. Baseball Village is making tons of money. Great cable TV deal. Money is up from MLB. Multiple Reputable outlets reported that we offered Stanton $310 million. That’s on top of trading young talent. There is no excuse. He needs to open up the wallet wide.

3 years of no playoffs. I bet their bottom line will finally suffer unless they do something big this off season. Mo needs to change his negotiating strategy. The fans are not going to tolerate we were close BS. We gain $20 million yearly additional cap room with the end of Waino’s contract. There is no reason whatsoever the Cardinals can’t raise the payroll another $20 million.

Harper has in the past made several positive comments about the Cardinals and their fans. We may be able to entice him to play here. Mo needs to publicly, via a leak to reputable journalist, offer this tomorrow. The fans will know your serious. Other teams too. Sure some team may try to run up the money to **** with the Cardinals but they did this to them self’s by trying to be incremental in the off seasons. It’s past time to go big.

10 years/$350 million guaranteed contract
5 year opt-out clause at age 31

We get his best prime years if he leaves, he gets family generational changing money.

If some other team offers him the same deal, you go to $400 million. They have put themselves in this position. They need to be bold and take the risk.
It won't happen, but I agree go big and give it a shot. It is the one upside bat that makes the most sense. I would be okay with an infield of Gyorko/DeJong/Wong/Carp with Ozuna/Bader/Harper and ONeill as the 4th outfielder. It doesn't make sense to keep Fowler if you actually somehow pull off this signing.
Posts: 4,025
VAChief would the whole thing.VAChief would the whole thing.VAChief would the whole thing.VAChief would the whole thing.VAChief would the whole thing.VAChief would the whole thing.VAChief would the whole thing.VAChief would the whole thing.VAChief would the whole thing.VAChief would the whole thing.VAChief would the whole thing.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2018, 03:49 PM   #3928
Jewish Rabbi Jewish Rabbi is offline
What's up braj?
 
Jewish Rabbi's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jun 2008
Casino cash: $3100
Lots of chatter about Harper's fit in St. Louis, so naturally someone will swoop in at the last second and offer just more than we did!
Posts: 4,714
Jewish Rabbi is too fat/Omaha.Jewish Rabbi is too fat/Omaha.Jewish Rabbi is too fat/Omaha.Jewish Rabbi is too fat/Omaha.Jewish Rabbi is too fat/Omaha.Jewish Rabbi is too fat/Omaha.Jewish Rabbi is too fat/Omaha.Jewish Rabbi is too fat/Omaha.Jewish Rabbi is too fat/Omaha.Jewish Rabbi is too fat/Omaha.Jewish Rabbi is too fat/Omaha.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2018, 03:54 PM   #3929
DJ's left nut DJ's left nut is online now
Still Dicking Bimbos At Home
 
DJ's left nut's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
Casino cash: $19199
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi View Post
Lots of chatter about Harper's fit in St. Louis, so naturally someone will swoop in at the last second and offer just more than we did!
John Mozeliak has demonstrated an extraordinary aptitude for appearing to try to sign marquee players but knowing exactly how far he can go to come up short.

I LOVE Bryce Harper. He's one of my favorite players in baseball (odd defensive collapse this year notwithstanding). But there's not a chance in hell Mozeliak demonstrates the stones to actually close the deal there.

He'll come up short and then talk about how they need that dry powder to re-sign Ozuna. And how they fully expect Dex to come back healthy and provide the team with that lefthanded bat they were really missing in September...
__________________
"If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..."

"When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
Posts: 32,487
DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2018, 09:22 PM   #3930
BigRedChief BigRedChief is offline
Has a particular set of skills
 
BigRedChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: On the water
Casino cash: $39727
VARSITY
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi View Post
Lots of chatter about Harper's fit in St. Louis, so naturally someone will swoop in at the last second and offer just more than we did!
Derrick Goold said on a podcast that he heard the Cardinals are at the top of his list. When asked where this information come from he said it wasn’t from the Cardinals or anyone associated with the Cardinals.

He said Harper just likes to go home after the game and be with his family and watch Netflix. He said that bottom line was that Harper saw the Cardinals and St. Louis as a good fit but doesn’t mean it’s just a matter of AAV and years on the contract. Boras expects there will be multiple team visits to set the market.
__________________
“Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
/Oscar Wilde
Posts: 62,099
BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:52 PM.


This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.