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Old 07-20-2016, 01:53 PM   #856
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Nah.

Discuss told me that the roster isn't any better than the one he inherited.

The number of people that are vested in being ****ing reeruned on this board is staggering. Dorsey's not an improvement over Pioli. Smith is just Cassel 2.0. Jeremy Maclin isn't better than Dwayne Bowe. The hits just keep ****ing comin' and all from the same 3-5 guys.

They're really smart.
Hence why the strength of the team, the defense, is anchored by Poe, Houston, DJ, Berry, Bailey and Tamba (in no particular order).

You know.. guys that weren't drafted or signed in FA by Dorsey.

The biggest difference is that Reid, while not an elite HC, is infinitely better than Haley, Herm and Crennel. Dorsey is a better GM than Pioli and better than the post-Marty era Carl Peterson.
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Old 07-20-2016, 01:58 PM   #857
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Hence why the strength of the team, the defense, is anchored by Poe, Houston, DJ, Berry, Bailey and Tamba (in no particular order).

You know.. guys that weren't drafted or signed in FA by Dorsey.

The biggest difference is that Reid, while not an elite HC, is infinitely better than Haley, Herm and Crennel. Dorsey is a better GM than Pioli and better than the post-Marty era Carl Peterson.
Then how the **** did we manage to not get blown out against the Pats in NE without Maclin, Houston, Charles, and a hobbled Hali?

Houston, Charles, Poe, Hali, Berry, DJ, Bailey...They've all missed significant time since this regime has been here, yet we've still managed to have 3 consecutive winning seasons.

All of this with Alex Smith at QB. How the **** do you explain that?
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Old 07-20-2016, 02:04 PM   #858
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Then how the **** did we manage to not get blown out against the Pats in NE without Maclin, Houston, Charles, and a hobbled Hali?

Houston, Charles, Poe, Hali, Berry, DJ....They've all missed significant time since this regime has been here, yet we've still managed to have 3 consecutive winning seasons.

All of this with Alex Smith at QB. How the **** do you explain that?
Well he cited Bailey as an anchor of the defense while also citing Hali and DJ who both pre-dated Pioli, so that gives you a little insight into things.

He's mostly just doubling down on stupid at this point.
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Old 07-20-2016, 02:15 PM   #859
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Well he cited Bailey as an anchor of the defense while also citing Hali and DJ who both pre-dated Pioli, so that gives you a little insight into things.

He's mostly just doubling down on stupid at this point.
Not to mention Maclin and Peters were the MVP's of the offense and defense last year.

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Old 07-20-2016, 02:16 PM   #860
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Houston, Charles, Bailey, Poe, Tamba, DJ and Berry were the best core group of players left to Dorsey and all have either missed significant time or had bad health problems affecting their play.

3 winning seasons in a row. No Houston or Charles last year? 11 straight wins.

DJ is definitely right here..
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Old 07-20-2016, 02:21 PM   #861
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Houston, Charles, Bailey, Poe, Tamba, DJ and Berry were the best core group of players left to Dorsey and all have either missed significant time or had bad health problems affecting their play.

3 winning seasons in a row. No Houston or Charles last year? 11 straight wins.

DJ is definitely right here..
And with DJ and Hali throughout his tenure, Pioli's teams did jack shit. With the additions of Houston, Poe, Berry and [chuckle] Bailey, Pioli's teams still did jack shit.

It's just such a ridiculous argument. It requires that you simply have slept through the Pioli era, when everyone recognized that the problem with this team wasn't it's stars. We were going out there with 8 Pro Bowlers and losing 10 games. Everyone knew it was a complete lack of roster depth and an inability to assemble a complete team that was killing the team.

It requires that you ignore the fact that Dorsey learned under Wolf, the same Ron Wolf who's always preached about horizontal roster building and creating depth and competition everywhere.

There's simply no question that this team and this roster has gotten better every single season under Dorsey. Immensely better, in fact.

Dorsey's a very good GM. Top 5? Eh, maybe, maybe not; there's a lot of luck there. But if you simply lump them as 'good', 'solid' and 'bad', there's no question that Dorsey's in the top 1/3 there; he's a good GM.
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And with DJ and Hali throughout his tenure, Pioli's teams did jack shit. With the additions of Houston, Poe, Berry and [chuckle] Bailey, Pioli's teams still did jack shit.

It's just such a ridiculous argument. It requires that you simply have slept through the Pioli era, when everyone recognized that the problem with this team wasn't it's stars. We were going out there with 8 Pro Bowlers and losing 10 games. Everyone knew it was a complete lack of roster depth and an inability to assemble a complete team that was killing the team.

It requires that you ignore the fact that Dorsey learned under Wolf, the same Ron Wolf who's always preached about horizontal roster building and creating depth and competition everywhere.

There's simply no question that this team and this roster has gotten better every single season under Dorsey. Immensely better, in fact.

Dorsey's a very good GM. Top 5? Eh, maybe, maybe not; there's a lot of luck there. But if you simply lump them as 'good', 'solid' and 'bad', there's no question that Dorsey's in the top 1/3 there; he's a good GM.
Great point about Dorsey coming from the Wolf tree. The proof of the job he's done building this roster horizontally was in the preseason last year. We are clearly the deepest I've ever seen a Chiefs team. When was the last time our 2nd and 3rd string looked that good in the preseason?
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Interesting chart here
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Eric Berry may skip all of training camp, preseason

With the Chiefs not signing safety Eric Berry to a long-term deal before July 15, the franchise-tagged player remains without a contract. Under the terms of the tender, he can show up just a few days before the start of the regular season and still get the full amount of his $10.8 million salary.

Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that Berry may do just that, skipping most if not all of training camp and the preseason, losing no money to fines but still getting the full $10.8 million salary.

The sole risk comes from the team’s ability to rescind the tag — something Chiefs coach Andy Reid did not once but twice during his time with the Eagles. Doing so would make Berry a free agent, and he would be hard pressed to get a deal on the open market that averages $10.8 million per year.

Under prior Collective Bargaining Agreements, the franchise tag for a given position was driven by the average of the five highest cap numbers in the prior year. Under the 2011 CBA, the tag is determined by the five-year average percentage of the overall cap that the franchise tag has consumed. With the growth of the cap outpacing in recent years the growth of the market at most positions, some franchise-tagged players — like Berry — instantly become the highest paid player at his position, albeit for only one year.

If the Chiefs would remove the tender, would another team pay Berry $10.8 million for 2016, or a multi-year deal averaging that much? Probably not.

It would be an unpopular move, to be sure. Berry has become a national inspiration given his recovery from cancer and his performance last season. But with Berry due to make more than any other safety and with the prospect of Berry showing up not fully prepared for Week One while still making $10.8 million, the Chiefs have to at least consider doing what Reid previously did with linebacker Jeremiah Trotter and defensive tackle Corey Simon.

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