Chiefs Who Has The Bigger 2015 Season...Maclin or Kelce? - Page 4

SeeingRed · 06-24-2015, 07:52 PM

Alex Smith tends to spread the ball around but Jeremy Maclin is an awesome WR coming off a career season who seems to be developing a good report with Smith. Maclin is coming off his best NFL season of over 1300 yards & 10 TD's, just turned 27 last month, is very familiar with Andy Reid's offense and will be the featured WR in this offense.

Travis Kelce is coming off his breakout NFL season where he led all WR's/TE's in both yards and TD's racking up over 800 yards despite starting slow coming off a severe knee injury with a long recovery in his rookie year. Kelce is now 100% healthy going into the 2015 season and is going as high as the 2nd TE off the board in early fantasy drafts ahead of even Jimmy Graham (and never lower than 4th). Can he live up to the lofty expectations? If so who has the bigger season Kelce or Maclin?

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/article...c-e2bec6e3bf69 .....(recent Maclin profile)

http://www.kcchiefs.com/media-center...5-db548542e0f6 ....(recent Kelce profile)

**BossChief** · 06-25-2015, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

That requires Alex Smith to throw 250 yards a game for 16 games to reach 4000 yards, do you know how many times Alex had games of 250 yards or more last season?

4. lol

He's got a long way to go, and it certainly isn't the olines fault.

You are usually a smart poster and I can't understand how you don't think Alex will improve quite a bit next year.

Everybody says "Alex needs a really good team around him. Alex doesn't make the players around him better." But then ignore it when terrible players are around him and we upgrade a bunch of spots on offense. I see Alex as a guy that's only as good as the guys around him, too. That's why I'm seeing him play top shelf ball in 2015.

His OL and his receivers should all be more trustworthy in 2015 than in 2014 and it's not even close. It's like going from Kendrick Lewis to Ron Parker and thinking we aren't gonna be better.

We got rid of McGlynn and Linkenbach. Fulton will most likely be depth. We have a few guys on essentially one year deals. I expect some guys to really step up and play at a high level on the line.

**MahiMike** · 06-25-2015, 10:18 AM

Mr. Laz · 06-25-2015, 10:32 AM

We are the Chiefs, they both get hurt.

Hammock Parties · 06-25-2015, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

His OL and his receivers should all be more trustworthy in 2015 than in 2014 and it's not even close.

Jeff Allen, Don Stephenson, Kush and Fisher haven't earned shit for trust. All of them save Kush have gotten Alex killed in the past, multiple times.

mcaj22 · 06-25-2015, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

You are usually a smart poster and I can't understand how you don't think Alex will improve quite a bit next year.

Everybody says "Alex needs a really good team around him. Alex doesn't make the players around him better." But then ignore it when terrible players are around him and we upgrade a bunch of spots on offense. I see Alex as a guy that's only as good as the guys around him, too. That's why I'm seeing him play top shelf ball in 2015.

His OL and his receivers should all be more trustworthy in 2015 than in 2014 and it's not even close. It's like going from Kendrick Lewis to Ron Parker and thinking we aren't gonna be better.

We got rid of McGlynn and Linkenbach. Fulton will most likely be depth. We have a few guys on essentially one year deals. I expect some guys to really step up and play at a high level on the line.

Im not bashing on Alex Smith but I am being realistic and bashing the idea on here that think this QB thats been in the league a decade is magically going to turn into something he has never been in his 10th season. This idea that this Trent Green/Rich Gannon type statistical breakout is coming is just rare to me, it rarely happens to NFL Quarterbacks and I just dont see where or how people see that in Alex Smith. I like Alex Smith but I think hes capped at his ceiling and his consistent numbers are what he is, I dont see him growing a golden arm overnight and turning into something he isnt.

In his career hes played with multiple top 5 defenses, multiple 1000 yard runningbacks, two of the fastest TEs in the NFL, some of the best and worst offensive lines and hes still put up similar numbers no matter the circumstance. I dont see what dark magic changes his 3000 yard, 60 percent, 20 touchdown seasons. A fast WR is going to change all that?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 06-25-2015, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

You are usually a smart poster and I can't understand how you don't think Alex will improve quite a bit next year.

Had to check the time/date stamp to make sure this wasn't posted last year.

SeeingRed · 06-25-2015, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

We are the Chiefs, they both get hurt.

mcaj22 · 06-25-2015, 10:57 AM

I just find the Trent Green/Rich Gannon thing lightning in a bottle/completely rare. So rare that I cant think of a QB in the NFL that had done it since, so why are we just crowning Alex Smith that rare breakout canidate?

**BossChief** · 06-25-2015, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Had to check the time/date stamp to make sure this wasn't posted last year.

Lots of things held the team back last year and they still won 9 games.

Wilson early injury
Bowes suspension/lack of precision
Avery injury (the teams only real deep threat)
Stephensons suspension/breakdown
Allen's injury
Thomas early injury

Once everybody was healthy and we added Avant, Alex Smith had 901 yards passing his last 3 games...albeit against below average pass defenses...but still.

I see Alex playing the best ball of his career in 2015.

ModSocks · 06-25-2015, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Had to check the time/date stamp to make sure this wasn't posted last year.

ModSocks · 06-25-2015, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Lots of things held the team back last year and they still won 9 games.

Wilson early injury
Bowes suspension/lack of precision
Avery injury (the teams only real deep threat)
Stephensons suspension/breakdown
Allen's injury
Thomas early injury

Once everybody was healthy and we added Avant, Alex Smith had 901 yards passing his last 3 games...albeit against below average pass defenses...but still.

I see Alex playing the best ball of his career in 2015.

And there will be injuries and set backs this season as well. I doubt the Chiefs go into the season completely healthy, let alone make it to the end of the season healthy.

Will Alex get more excuses then too?

**BossChief** · 06-25-2015, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

And there will be injuries and set backs this season as well. I doubt the Chiefs go into the season completely healthy, let alone make it to the end of the season healthy.

Will Alex get more excuses then too?

I can't wait to see Alex have a big year and to hear you guys cry about it.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 06-25-2015, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

And there will be injuries and set backs this season as well. I doubt the Chiefs go into the season completely healthy, let alone make it to the end of the season healthy.

Will Alex get more excuses then too?

I've been watching football since I was 6 years old, and in that 36 years I've yet to see a team that didn't have to face some sort of adversity.

But this year will be different!

**OnTheWarpath15** · 06-25-2015, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

I can't wait to see Alex have a big year and to hear you guys cry about it.

I can't wait either, it would be nice to see a big year once in 10 seasons.

ModSocks · 06-25-2015, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

I can't wait to see Alex have a big year and to hear you guys cry about it.

Lol why would we cry about it? Who's going to cry about the Chiefs winning? I doubt there is anyone here who HOPES you're wrong.

But you're basically trying to convince us that 10 years of History doesn't mean anything, because apparently for every one of those 10 years his teams weren't good enough, and now all of a sudden, THIS is the year.

10 Years of history suggests that you're wrong. There is no evidence to suggest things are going to all of a sudden turn around for him. All you have is hopes and dreams. Hopes and dreams vs 10 years of history....

06-24-2015, 07:52 PM
SeeingRed Veteran Join Date: May 2013 Casino cash: $10011193	Who Has The Bigger 2015 Season...Maclin or Kelce? Alex Smith tends to spread the ball around but Jeremy Maclin is an awesome WR coming off a career season who seems to be developing a good report with Smith. Maclin is coming off his best NFL season of over 1300 yards & 10 TD's, just turned 27 last month, is very familiar with Andy Reid's offense and will be the featured WR in this offense. Travis Kelce is coming off his breakout NFL season where he led all WR's/TE's in both yards and TD's racking up over 800 yards despite starting slow coming off a severe knee injury with a long recovery in his rookie year. Kelce is now 100% healthy going into the 2015 season and is going as high as the 2nd TE off the board in early fantasy drafts ahead of even Jimmy Graham (and never lower than 4th). Can he live up to the lofty expectations? If so who has the bigger season Kelce or Maclin? http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/article...c-e2bec6e3bf69 .....(recent Maclin profile) http://www.kcchiefs.com/media-center...5-db548542e0f6 ....(recent Kelce profile)
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