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Old 02-13-2019, 02:33 PM  
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I think I have figured out the perfect FA and draft plan for the defense

Here it goes.

FA

You sign a top notch FA safety (Thomas, Collins or Amos) for multiple years and a good DT (McCoy, Richardson, Suh, etc.) for a one-year or two-year contract. You can also sign other players on offense and defense on cheap deals.


Draft

1st round: CB

2nd round: ILB and C/G

3rd round: CB


You restructure Houston. You tag Ford. You trade a 2020 2nd round pick for Patrick Peterson or a lower pick for a decent veteran player who has a year or two left on his contract. I guess you could sign instead a FA CB on a one-year deal.

You end up with:

Houston-Nnadi-Jones-Ford

O'Daniel-Hitchens-2nd round LB

Peterson-Collins-Berri-1st round CB (Fuller in the slot)



You have Speaks and Kpassagnon as backup at DE. You have your FA DT rotating with Nnadi/Jones.

With the Hithens contract, I just don't think you can afford paying big dollars to a FA LB. Plus, recent drafts have showed that you can have a good LB late 2nd round/early 3rd round (Anzalone, Carter, Warner, Cunningham, etc.) and those guys are good early.

The linebackers would be the weakest group but I think they can be decent, especially if Hitchens goes back to his Cowboys' form.

The secondary would be a strong group. Even if Berri doesn't play, you have Watts or Murray (I know he is poor) who can play there. You have Ward and a 3rd round pick as backup CBs. I guess that 3rd round pick could be a safety but I would rather get a CB. If Berri doesn't play, Veach needs to find a scrap heap safety like Dorsey did so well.

I think it would be a defense set up for the next two years where you can draft a 1st round DE in 2020 to replace Houston/Ford or something like that.

Fire away! SB here we come.

What do you think?

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Old 02-13-2019, 02:53 PM   #16
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Here’s the real plan.

1) Sign no “name” FAs. We did that last year.

2) Sign some value vets that fit the 4-3 under.

3) Trade some draft capital for players on rookie deals.

4) Draft more talent.

5) Coach them up.

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Old 02-13-2019, 02:53 PM   #17
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Old 02-13-2019, 02:58 PM   #18
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I think we are wasting Speaks by keeping him on the bench. I'd let Houston walk.
id restructure houston instead of tagging ford
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Old 02-13-2019, 03:00 PM   #19
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Buckweath, I applaude the time and effort you put into this. Much like I applaud the kids at the Special Olympics for running the 100 yard dash in swim flippers.
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Old 02-13-2019, 03:00 PM   #20
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Most of the season I have heard mostly complaints about Speaks. Is he good or bad? We are a 4/3 defense now We should start using “MLB” again.
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Old 02-13-2019, 03:00 PM   #21
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Speaks is starting. Houston is the Sam Linebacker.

O’Daniel———Hitchens
—————————————-Houston
Ford—-Jones——Nnadi—-Speaks

You are thinking of a 4-3 defense, when Spags is know for the 4-3 Under. Houston will still rush or drop back, just like how we’ve been using him already.
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Old 02-13-2019, 03:01 PM   #22
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You guys need to realize that we have to sign 70 mil+ within the next 2 years

Mahomes - 30 mil
Hill - 21 mil
Chris Jones - 15 mil

That’s 66 mil alone right there.

You need to stop expecting guys like Landon Collins in FA. It’s not happening and you’re just setting yourself up to be letdown.

I like the Peterson idea but feel like Cards will demand more.
you have to look at current cap hit which isnt that much but probably along the lines of 6-7 million for those three and a collins for probably be right at 10 million a year. Berrys terrible contract will eventually stop hurting so much. These things can be done. Look what the rams did last year
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1. Cut Houston, Sorenson, Ragland and Murray.
2. Tag and trade Ford to the Packers for a 2nd round pick in 2019 and a future 2020 pick (4th to 5th range)
3. Sign Vinny Curry to a 2-3 year deal worth about $7 million a season.
4. Trade our 2019 1st round pick and a future 2020 pick (3rd to 4th range) for Jalen Ramsey.

2. Nasir Adderley, S, Delaware
2. Germaine Pratt, LB, N.C. State
2. Connor McGovern, G/C, Penn State
3. Joejuan Williams, CB, Vanderbilt

Speaks - Nnadi - Jones - Curry

Pratt - Hitchens - DOD

Ramsey - Berry - Adderley - Ward

Fuller in the slot.
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Old 02-13-2019, 03:25 PM   #24
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That defense will be worse against the run than last years.Every down 3-4 OLB playing every down 4-3 DEs will be abused by NFL Olines. Mahomes can't win the SB with that defense giving up long, time consuming TD drives every possession.
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Old 02-13-2019, 03:50 PM   #25
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I think Speaks will be fine at DE. Houston will restructure and make him the rush DE. At least he can seal an edge. Tag Ford only if you think you can trade him. You can't cut everyone without taking some pretty harsh cap hits.
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Old 02-13-2019, 03:57 PM   #26
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That defense will be worse against the run than last years.Every down 3-4 OLB playing every down 4-3 DEs will be abused by NFL Olines. Mahomes can't win the SB with that defense giving up long, time consuming TD drives every possession.
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Old 02-13-2019, 04:00 PM   #27
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I think Speaks will be fine at DE. Houston will restructure and make him the rush DE. At least he can seal an edge. Tag Ford only if you think you can trade him. You can't cut everyone without taking some pretty harsh cap hits.
Veach has already said Ford will be here next year. So this trading scenario can stop now
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Old 02-13-2019, 04:04 PM   #28
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Veach has already said Ford will be here next year. So this trading scenario can stop now
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Old 02-13-2019, 04:22 PM   #29
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Yeah I dont get how some fans mention tagging and trading Ford when anyone who has a clue knows it is not happening.

Veach has pretty much said it clearly that they are counting on him to play for this defense next year.
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Old 02-13-2019, 04:22 PM   #30
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Veach has already said Ford will be here next year. So this trading scenario can stop now
that's not quite what he said. And what he DID say could've just as easily been priming the market.
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