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Old 12-01-2012, 02:15 PM  
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The state of the Kansas City Chiefs.
Now what...?

With so much anger built-up with this current regime, I can't help but cheer for them after wanting them to fail miserably.

What kind of state is this team and coaching staff in who witnessed this happen if reports are true? Crennel...a defensive coordinator by heart, obviously spent a lot of one-on-one time with this troubled individual. What is he thinking? Scott Pioli...there are banners flying over the stadium calling for your head, and now one of your men has taken the life of a mother and then himself. What is running through his head. Same goes for others who witnessed this tragedy. How do you continue doing your job in a professional manner...?

I have never been in such a situation, but it is one thing to witness someone take their own life, but it's another to witness a friend take such a cowardly route.

SOC...what now? I support the donation idea thrown around in the other threads. IMO, there should be no more banners in the air for the remainder of the season. Do we now go full-homer and support this team regardless of who is navigating the ship?

Finally...if Pioli and [somehow] Crennel return next season, do you support them after what they have witness has humans.

I could have thrown this in either of the two shooting threads, but I wanted to hear your thoughts on where you stand today with the Chiefs. Are you rooting for them to win the remainder of the games this season and whatever happens with our draft position happens....? Is this a matter of football vs real-life to you and as a fan, you still wish for failure in the FO and the #1 draft pick. Or are you somewhere in the middle?

I duno...curious to hear how others feel right now about the state of our franchise given this morning's tragic events. Where do you go from here...?
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Old 12-01-2012, 02:54 PM   #61
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I hope Clark doesn't cave in to the sympathy factor and keep Pioli on board after the suicide he witnessed today. I don't think Crennel will step down after the season. Why would he pass on millions of dollars voluntarily? He saw another head coaching gig as an opportunity to set himself up for retirement.
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Old 12-01-2012, 02:54 PM   #62
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Lots of people have ****ed up lives, and still choose not to what Belcher did. And most people arent makings millions of dollars to boot.

That being said, nothing has changed about Pioli, Romeo, or Cassel, and they still all deserve to be fired.
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Old 12-01-2012, 02:55 PM   #63
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Disgusting to somehow blame Pioli for this.
The amount of stupidity I've read on this board today is stunning, even knowing full well what this place is.
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Old 12-01-2012, 02:55 PM   #64
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Than it still falls on Pioli's "right 53" sorry but if all the stories are true around Arrowhead than being driven crazy is right on par.
Then why wouldn't he have just offed Pioli before offing himself? God knows he had the opportunity. YOu know, since it was all Pioli's fault that he went crazy and everything.
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Old 12-01-2012, 02:55 PM   #65
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So Belcher is a murderer...he was also a teammate. How would you feel if the defense ran the first play with only 10 men on the field?
If he was the one murdered absolutely... but since he killed NO
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Old 12-01-2012, 02:56 PM   #66
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How would you feel if the defense ran the first play with only 10 men on the field?
It probably wouldn't affect the way this team plays defense.
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Old 12-01-2012, 02:56 PM   #67
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There should be absolutely no connection made to the tragedy off the field to day and the tragedy that is on the field every week. Pioli needs to go. Crennel needs to go. Hunt needs to go.
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BTW, I never said Pioli was responsible, I said I felt his way of running things could have added to it. Read, dont assume.
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Old 12-01-2012, 02:57 PM   #69
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So Belcher is a murderer...he was also a teammate. How would you feel if the defense ran the first play with only 10 men on the field?
Who knows how the team will react tomorrow. It will be interesting to see.



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Disgusting to somehow blame Pioli for this.
Especially, if true, he was brave enough to go out and talk him out of taking his own life.
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Why? Because of Belcher?
Shit no, because of the whole thing, man.

The Haley firing was inexcusable, 4 seasons of Matt Cassel AFTER 3 seasons of Huard/Croyle/Thigpen, letting Carr walk, Larry Johnson, the list goes on and on...but the reality is that This team has fallen flat on its face ever since Clark Hunt took over, almost from the ****ing minute it happened.

I think he's a billionaire business man who doesn't care about football, the Chiefs, fheir fans or Kansas City in general.

and I think it kinda shows. Forgive me for feeling disgusted when I look through my closet and all I see are red jerseys and red/yellow hoodies.

I feel like a ****ing chump because I have nothing else to wear.

I feel like I'm a sucker who's been duped.
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Old 12-01-2012, 02:58 PM   #72
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Who knows how the team will react tomorrow. It will be interesting to see.



See, I'm participating in the thread now as it was intended. Can I have my rep back eventually?
Once I spread more rep...
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I believe that most of the reports about the culture of Arrowhead are true. I also believe that Pioli is a terrible GM and generally loathsome individual.

But he deserves zero blame or responsibility for anything that happened with Belcher today or leading up to today's events.
Agreed. Look, regardless of how good or bad it is this is something you sign up for. Being in crappy work enviornments in the NFL are expected from certain organizations. It doesn't seem like this is due to his work life, but even if it is, it's still not his bosses fault.
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BTW, I never said Pioli was responsible, I said I felt his way of running things could have added to it. Read, dont assume.
I can't think of a single thing Pioli could have done while running this football team to add to the mental state of someone who shot several holes in his girlfriend and then shot one hole in his own head.
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I woke up this morning to a text from my cousin and it just said "Did you hear about Belcher?" The thought of something this horrible happening never even entered my mind. I assumed maybe he was talking about Belcher getting hurt at practice or somethin...
Right. It's bizzaro Twilight Zone shit.
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