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Old 06-12-2018, 04:18 PM  
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People who overestimate their political knowledge tend to believe conspiracy theories

Posting just because I'll be amused to watch the discussion. Not that there's anyone here this would apply to.

http://www.psypost.org/2018/06/peopl...theories-51447

People who overestimate their political knowledge are more likely to believe conspiracy theories
By ERIC W. DOLAN June 11, 2018

People who overestimate their understanding of political issues are more likely to believe conspiracy theories, according to new research that appears in the European Journal for Social Psychology.

“Conspiracy theories about government actors and institutions are widespread across the political ideological spectrum,” remarked study author Joseph A. Vitriol, a postdoctoral research associate at Lehigh University. “These beliefs attribute outsized influence to hidden actors or clandestine groups who are perceived as the root cause of an important world event, action, or outcome.”

“Because conspiracy beliefs often preserve discredited assumptions or serve as a basis for dismissing information that challenges one’s worldview, they are often difficult to correct (as is true for many political misperceptions) and can therefore undermine the ability for citizens to effectively and ethically engage in the political process.”

“Indeed, these beliefs are not constrained to the politically disengaged or the uninformed. Instead, conspiracy theories are commonly endorsed and propagated by actors at the highest levels of political power and, as a result, are consequential for public policy,” Vitriol said.

“In short, conspiracy beliefs are important influences on citizens’ political judgment and behavior. This can undermine the ability of elected officials to address problems in society with evidence-based public policy and governance. By investigating the psychological underpinning of conspiracy beliefs, we are better able to understand how these beliefs form and spread. We are also better able to identify strategies for informing or educating the public and combating the influence of false and fabricated information on political psychology and behavior.”

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Old 06-12-2018, 05:56 PM   #46
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Old 06-12-2018, 06:02 PM   #47
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I believe in almost zero conspiracy theories. Our govt's can barely operate as it is, how do you think they would be able to cover things up successfully?
This is most likely closest to the truth than any conspiracy anyone can dream up.

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Old 06-12-2018, 06:51 PM   #48
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Once one conspiracy theory gets ya it's just easier to believe more and more of them. But it's not always easy to spot an individual that's just saying that the earth is flat or that the moon landing wasn't real for attention

I worked with a guy made more than just one claim that was more than questionable. But I kept asking questions because it was so entertaining. He stated that he had spent over a decade and a half trying to prove that time travel was real, was still working on it, and that the moon landing was fake. He had found proof too

But his most outrageous and the best claim that he made was that Fight Club was based on him. That he had started fight clubs all over the American Southeast. And that he had been involved in many industrial and domestic acts of terrorism. He wasn't always the easiest guy to work with as he had a few social issues and the boss did have it in for him that I could tell
He doesn’t even know the first rule of Fight Club.
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Old 06-12-2018, 06:51 PM   #49
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... what's a "Conspiracy denier?"
Someone who applies a rational and evidence based thought process. Indeed as BEP points out, we are a rare breed.

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Old 06-12-2018, 06:53 PM   #50
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Old 06-12-2018, 08:21 PM   #51
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So, I take it that you guys don't believe Hitler and his cronies didn't conspire to invade other countries and start a war? I take it that his dressing up German soldiers in Polish military uniforms to claim the Polish attacked the German's first, never happened because "Gasp!" it makes you a believer in a "conspiracy."

I supposed you don't think Lenin hadn't planned or conspired to foment a revolution in Russia to overthrow it's provisional govt after the Czar had abdicated months earlier? That was all out in the open and announced for everything to see right?

You people look just a foolish if you think otherwise. This is not a black and white matter. Only simpletons think it is.
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Old 06-12-2018, 08:48 PM   #52
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Old 06-12-2018, 09:24 PM   #53
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There's plenty of people who overestimate their political knowledge who are 100% always against conspiracy theories. I'll tell you who one of them is—Sean Hannity. Let's see if the lefties here agree. I'll bet they do. Eleazar and HCF are some here.
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Old 06-12-2018, 09:27 PM   #54
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Someone who applies a rational and evidence based thought process. Indeed as BEP points out, we are a rare breed.
Nope. If someone who doesn't think there is ever any planning of crimes by some in government or outside of govt ever at all through history, despite people getting indicted and convicted for conspiracy, then they're delusional—not rational and certainly not basing their opinion on any evidence.
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Old 06-12-2018, 09:32 PM   #55
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This is most likely closest to the truth than any conspiracy anyone can dream up.

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That's why Bush Cheney and the PNAC crowed got caught conspiring to go to war in Iraq using lies. Just because they got caught doesn't mean planning that war crime wasn't a conspiracy. It's no different than others who get caught planning a crime together and get charged with conspiracy as a crime. Conspiracies do get found out and go to jail for them too. But there's no conspiracy ever.

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MIAMI — Jose Padilla, the Brooklyn-born convert to Islam whom the government once accused of plotting to detonate a “dirty bomb” in the United States, was sentenced on Tuesday to 17 years and 4 months in prison for his role in a conspiracy to help Islamic jihadist fighters abroad.

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/23/us/23padilla.html
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Old 06-12-2018, 09:40 PM   #56
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What do you non-conspiracy theorists think the 9/11 event was rightfully called? That was a conspiracy.
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Old 06-12-2018, 09:55 PM   #57
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Nope. If someone who doesn't think there is ever any planning of crimes by some in government or outside of govt ever at all through history, despite people getting indicted and convicted for conspiracy, then they're delusional—not rational and certainly not basing their opinion on any evidence.
Iran-Contra was a conspiracy as indicated by evidence and testimony.

The most likely explanation of the JFK assassination according to evidence is LHO acting alone. I was a JFK conspiracy fan in the 1980s but the longer I looked at it the more it looked like the Warren commission got it right.
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Old 06-12-2018, 09:58 PM   #58
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Iran-Contra was a conspiracy as indicated by evidence and testimony.
They didn't use any govt money though. That's what was barred by Congress. I think this one is arguable.

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The most likely explanation of the JFK assassination according to evidence is LHO acting alone. I was a JFK conspiracy fan in the 1980s but the longer I looked at it the more it looked like the Warren commission got it right.
I think it's arguable. I never really thought on it much until I read something on the ballistics, but made no final conclusion...just more a could be to me.

Tell me why Jackie Kennedy felt LBJ was behind it tho'?
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What do you non-conspiracy theorists think the 9/11 event was rightfully called? That was a conspiracy.
Of Islamic terrorists. Not of US government agents.

No one is saying conspiracies don't happen, o' fabricator of the straw man.
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It's a conspiracy to discredit their theories!
Shut up, Mr. Deep State. Way to out yourself...
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