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Old 06-08-2018, 08:42 AM  
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Trump Calls for Russia to Rejoin G7, Exacerbating Rift with Allies

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President Trump called on allies to reinstate Russia as part of the G7 Friday, deepening a rift over trade policy that spilled out on Twitter just days ahead of the summit in Canada.

“Russia should be in this meeting,” Trump told reporters at the White House immediately before departing for the summit. “Why are we having a meeting without Russia being in the meeting? And I would recommend — and it’s up to them — but Russia should be in the meeting, it should be a part of it. You know, whether you like it or not, and it may not be politically correct, but we have a world to run and the G-7 — which used to be the G-8, they threw Russia out — they should let Russia come back in because we should have Russia at the negotiating table.”

Russia was expelled from the G7 in 2014 in retaliation for its annexation of the Crimean peninsula — a violation of international law that drew universal condemnation from U.S. allies.

The unexpected show of support for Russia came after Trump traded blows on Twitter with French president Emmanuel Macron and Canadian prime minister Justin Trudeau over a perceived imbalance in the trade relationship between the United States and its allies.
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Following the Twitter spat, the White House announced late Thursday that Trump would not attend a session dedicated to climate change on Saturday morning, announcing that he would instead fly directly to Singapore to meet with Kim Jong-un.

The public back-and-forth came days after the Trump administration imposed significant steel and aluminum tariffs on a number of U.S. allies, including European Union nations and Canada, after initially exempting the countries from the protectionist measure. Both Canada and the E.U. have challenged Trump’s national-security justification for the tariffs in complaints filed with the World Trade Organization, and both have also announced retaliatory tariffs.
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Old 06-08-2018, 12:31 PM   #76
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I have no problem with businessmen adjusting their businesses to market realities. What Trump's business is doing is the kind of stuff that economists warned would be a result of the Clinton policies that were extended by Bush and Obama. Trump is reversing those policies and taking the globalist monkey off of our backs.
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Old 06-08-2018, 12:32 PM   #77
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I have no problem with businessmen adjusting their businesses to market realities. What Trump's business is doing is the kind of stuff that economists warned would be a result of the Clinton policies that were extended by Bush and Obama. Trump is reversing those policies and taking the globalist monkey off of our backs.
MAGA! So, when these policies are reversed, you would expect Trump to bring his manufacturing back home, right?
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Old 06-08-2018, 12:34 PM   #78
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MAGA! So, when these policies are reversed, you would expect Trump to bring his manufacturing back home, right?
Yes, and not before then.
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Old 06-08-2018, 12:34 PM   #79
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Yes, and not before then.
I see. You are fine with Trump choosing better profit margin over patriotism and American jobs.
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Old 06-08-2018, 12:34 PM   #80
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This is a verbose way of saying “I don’t care, and it’s funny leftists care now.”

I don’t care. I’m actually laughing since Ali doesn’t need a pardon. His conviction was overturned by the SCOTUS in 1971. I’m laughing since our president can’t even read Wikipedia.
No, it's my way of saying what I intended to say.

Feel free to look back, I have a long resume of disappointment that the left is so invested in meaningless symbolic gestures, . . . listening tours, posthumous pardons, awards and proclamations, and most problematic, a shit ton of goodwill for 'well intended' disastrous legislation.

And I'm 'actually laughing' as well because the hatred of Trump once again reliably finds the left bending to positions I've held all along like they flipping invented attention to detail and results in the past year.

Search your heart and you'll know its true. If Obama had pardoned Ali, the narrative would obviate the issue of mootness and fawn all over how this 'healed a decades-long cultural rift in our painful racist past.' And how it demonstrated the 'emotional power of progress and reconciliation.' Heck, it might have gotten him another Nobel Peace Prize.
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And perhaps not until he's out of office. There's politics entangled in this now.
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I see. You are fine with Trump choosing better profit margin over patriotism and American jobs.
Of course I am. I'm not some Democrat who believed that they could **** over American businesses and then shame them for adjusting to the realities of their horrible economic policies. I'm a free marketer.
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"Why don't we raise taxes on businesses and then give manufacturers every reason to relocate their businesses overseas and then shame them for doing that for not being patriotic?"

"Great idea President Clinton. Should we also transfer a bunch of our technology to them?"

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Of course I am. I'm not some Democrat who believed that they could **** over American businesses and then shame them for adjusting to the realities of their horrible economic policies. I'm a free marketer.
You said that Trump "had to" make the decision to manufacture overseas. That's wrong. He didn't. He chose to do so.
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You said that Trump "had to" make the decision to manufacture overseas. That's wrong. He didn't. He chose to do so.
Business realities are business realities.

I'm not going to blame businesses for what government ****ed up.
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Seems quite reasonable.
From Trump's perspective, nearly anything would appear to be reasonable if it keeps the pee pee tape under wraps.
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From Trump's perspective, nearly anything would appear to be reasonable if it keeps the pee pee tape under wraps.
What if it was real? Do you think it would matter?
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Wait wait wait, Donger can you tell me why we weren't expelled from the G8 for.


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Libya
Afganistan
Syria
etc........

Talk about being hypocritical guys, the world had the chance to say "NO" to Russia and they didn't.
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What if it was real? Do you think it would matter?
Well, you make a good point...…..
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Wait wait wait, Donger can you tell me why we weren't expelled from the G8 for.


Irag
Libya
Afganistan
Syria
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Talk about being hypocritical guys, the world had the chance to say "NO" to Russia and they didn't.
Sure:

Iraq. I can be argued that the invasion in 2003 was just a carry-on of the Gulf War, which was authorized by the UN.

Libya. We didn't invade and take over Libya.

Afghanistan. We were attacked by al-Qaeda, which was being shielded by the Taliban.

Syria. We didn't invade and take over Syria.
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