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Old 09-12-2007, 12:46 AM  
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Old 09-12-2007, 06:34 AM   #16
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with that logic, you go ahead and pick Medlock for your fantasy team.
I'm not talking about fantasy football. I'm talking about winning games, which the Chiefs are making a pathetic attempt at doing.

They got rid of a kicker that MIGHT suck and replaced with a kicker that DOES suck.
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Old 09-12-2007, 06:38 AM   #17
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I'm not talking about fantasy football. I'm talking about winning games, which the Chiefs are making a pathetic attempt at doing.

They got rid of a kicker that MIGHT suck and replaced with a kicker that DOES suck.
they got rid of a kicker that proved he can't do anything but suck.
Might be the same for Raynor we shall see, but Medlock proved on this team he isn't capable. Raynor now has his chance to see if he is capable on this team. Boot his ass out too if he is not capable.
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Old 09-12-2007, 06:40 AM   #18
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they got rid of a kicker that proved he can't do anything but suck.
Might be the same for Raynor we shall see, but Medlock proved on this team he isn't capable. Raynor now has his chance to see if he is capable on this team. Boot his ass out too if he is not capable.


You got another one, Carl.
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Old 09-12-2007, 06:42 AM   #19
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Futhermore, Justin Medlock was 70-88 in college, an 80% rate. His current 50% make rate is statistically divergent, especially considering the EXTREMELY small sample size.

On the other hand, Rayner's college make rate was 71% - right in line with his pro make rate of 74%.

There's plenty of reason to believe that Rayner is not a good NFL kicker and might never become one.
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Old 09-12-2007, 06:44 AM   #20
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Justin Medlock missed a FG, which cost the Chiefs points.

Eddie Drummond fumbled a kickoff, and also cost the Chiefs points.

Which one is a free agent band-aid? And which one is still on the team?

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Old 09-12-2007, 06:46 AM   #21
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You know what's funny?

Expecting Dave Rayner to somehow magically get BETTER because he's now in KC.

How many free agents come here and get BETTER?

I'd like someone to name them for me, because I certainly remember alot of players that SUCKED while they were here, despite being at or near a pro bowl level right before, or right after, they were here.
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Old 09-12-2007, 06:47 AM   #22
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You got another one, Carl.
Carl drones accept whatever we have, no matter how shit.

Looks like this cat is glad we got rid of someone and at least tried to better ourselves.

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Old 09-12-2007, 06:55 AM   #23
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Don't be silly.......thats Dave Rayners job.
I guess Rayner's FG range extends up to 80 yards, which will now give the Chiefs a ray of hope for scoring. I can finally see why we signed him.
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Old 09-12-2007, 06:56 AM   #24
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Futhermore, Justin Medlock was 70-88 in college, an 80% rate. His current 50% make rate is statistically divergent, especially considering the EXTREMELY small sample size.

On the other hand, Rayner's college make rate was 71% - right in line with his pro make rate of 74%.

There's plenty of reason to believe that Rayner is not a good NFL kicker and might never become one.

What a spin job.

I see that you want to discount his preseason performance.
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Old 09-12-2007, 07:19 AM   #25
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What a spin job.

I see that you want to discount his preseason performance.
I did?

He is 4-8, INCLUDING preseason. That's 50%. And 5 games IS a small sample size.

The joke is on you. Better luck next time.
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Old 09-12-2007, 07:24 AM   #26
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You know what's funny?

Expecting Dave Rayner to somehow magically get BETTER because he's now in KC.

How many free agents come here and get BETTER?

I'd like someone to name them for me, because I certainly remember alot of players that SUCKED while they were here, despite being at or near a pro bowl level right before, or right after, they were here.
Damn ht, you have gone all Mecca on us in the last few days!!!

You really seem fired up about Carl, Herm, and Medlock, what gives? Usually you are much more methodical in your posts, which is one reason I really enjoy reading your takes.

Anyways, why not give Rayner a shot? Many people have stated that Lowery and all the other greats took a while to "get it down". I mean, you want to give Medlock the season right? Well Rayner already had his season, it may be his breakout year. Medlock is on the PS, so he's still there for emergency or next season.
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Old 09-12-2007, 07:32 AM   #27
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Damn ht, you have gone all Mecca on us in the last few days!!!

You really seem fired up about Carl, Herm, and Medlock, what gives? Usually you are much more methodical in your posts, which is one reason I really enjoy reading your takes.

Anyways, why not give Rayner a shot? Many people have stated that Lowery and all the other greats took a while to "get it down". I mean, you want to give Medlock the season right? Well Rayner already had his season, it may be his breakout year. Medlock is on the PS, so he's still there for emergency or next season.
Why?

Because they've finally worn through my patience.

I started following this team in the early 80's and I'm just flat-out sick of knowing in the bottom of my heart every year that we really don't have a shot.
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Old 09-12-2007, 07:41 AM   #28
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Why?

Because they've finally worn through my patience.

I started following this team in the early 80's and I'm just flat-out sick of knowing in the bottom of my heart every year that we really don't have a shot.
Yeah, this $hit is starting to smell just like the Royals - the seasons are over before it even starts. Anyone foolish enough buying tickets to the games, and not realizing they are being fleeced by Carl and Clark deserve the fleecing they're getting.

Baseball's one thing - when the payrolls are so disparate, but for the Chiefs to be so far off base from the likes of the Patrioits, Colts, Chargers etc., teams that have virtually identical financial structures as ours, means one thing - Carl Peterson has no clue WTF he is doing.

I've had it with all the "well, those picks were Vermiels' picks, or he DID draft TG and LJ. The bottom line is that Carl has made millions for himself and the Hunts off of the fans of this city, and we have nothing to show for it. He's been given more that a fair shot to say the least. It's beyond ridiculous and time for him to go - TODAY.
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Old 09-12-2007, 07:41 AM   #29
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Why?

Because they've finally worn through my patience.

I started following this team in the early 80's and I'm just flat-out sick of knowing in the bottom of my heart every year that we really don't have a shot.
I hear ya! I started watching in '81. After the '96 Colts debacle I threw my TV across the room (twice, the first time didn't do enough damage) and burned a Chiefs hat in effigy within minutes of the game ending.

The problem is that IMO, you are one of the most knowledgeable posters here with an emotionless, unbiased tone. No offense to the homers / Meccas of the board, but at least with your posts I could tell you were actually discussing the merits of the topic themselves without rose-colored glasses.

Oh well, everyone deserves a good breakdown, so just make sure you do it right and go total psycho this season so I at least get some entertainment! Then I expect you back in original form by draft day.
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