Is the NFL and its refs out to "get us"?

[BigRedChief]

You conspiracy nuts need to stop this crap.The game wasn't fixed. This poor old me routine on here is getting old.



The NFL loves the Chiefs and Mahomes. They are the exact team they want playing in the NFL. GMF is nothing but a Mahomes lovefest every morning. All of the NFL network shows tout Mahomes and the Chiefs offense. They flexed us into two straight weeks on SNF. Its so obvious other teams fans are bitching about the constant Mahomes/Chiefs love fest.But, they are out to get us?

Another one is the NFL doesnt want a small market winning the SB. Are these conspiracy nuts paying attention? Small markets don't matter if your the big dog. Rogers in GB, Manning in Indy, Hello....evidence you can see with your own eyes.

With all this evidence we can see on a daily basis, somehow you get the idea that the NFL wants the Chiefs to lose. That makes no sense. They are not out to "get us". The NFL is promoting the shit out of us on a daily basis. This conspiracy BS is just that, BS.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Won't disagree, just not sure it's truly called every time though.

I specifically remember a time this year when a Chief did it and was NOT flagged.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Okay, so I've given this issue a lot of thought over the past 45 seconds, and here's what I think.


So then when you get to games like this, it's easy for a conspiracy theory to be built. There's a very strong business case to be made that the Los Angeles fan base needs to solidified. We all know Los Angeles. If their team gets behind by 10 points they're going to switch channels and watch a rerun of Breaking Bad or Entourage. I spend a lot of time in the LA area, and there's no sports culture there. It's hard to even find a sports bar that's any good. So a conspiracy theorist would say that the two Los Angeles teams need to win and be successful in their first few years in the city, or they'll fade to irrelevancy, which is why the Rams and Raiders (and even the Chargers in their first year) all left in the first place. Oh, and who's the other team in the big game? Kansas City? Meh, Kansas City doesn't matter. (Maybe that changes in the future with Patrick Mahomes II, but it clearly hasn't taken root yet.)

I respect your posts, but this is as dumb a statement as has ever been made on CP by someone who isn't a complete ****tard.

I mean, the sports culture may not LOOK like yours, but that's because there is about 1000000x more money to be made off opening an upscale bar with $15 cocktails versus a Johnny's Tavern with Miller Lite on tap and chicken wings. Also, people's understanding of what LA is usually is decided by the 3-4 predominantly upscale neighborhoods they visit on business or vacation.

[Mecca]

Also for the thread starter...

Having a franchise guy is going to help but let me tell you something...

Green Bay has had nearly 30 years of franchise QB's in a row and they have 2 bowls..Manning put in what 12 years in Indy something like that and got 1...

So small market franchise QB's won 3 superbowls in 40 years...Tom Brady won that in 4 years. And he plays in Boston.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by Fish

Absolutely. There were tons of calls that were clearly in the Chiefs' favor last night that could have been called differently. Nobody seems to want to admit that though...

And, that's what I figured... we just remember the non-calls, etc that sting.

Originally Posted by Fish

It wasn't the peace sign. Hill got right in the defenders face when he was doing it, and it was directly in front of the ref. It was the way he was directing it at the defender.

And, that's the big difference. Player doing anything with nobody around (that isn't vulgur) is likely not getting called. Do that to an opposing player, and you're getting a flag. Pretty simple.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Then explain Rogers in GB, Manning in Indy. And now Mahomes in KC?

Rodgers and Manning didn't get calls when they had to go face Brady...hence why Manning was labeled a choker. You remember Manning getting calls because he was higher than the Chiefs on the pecking order but then he'd take it with no lube in Boston.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by Mecca

That's it, they don't care about the Chiefs. The Chiefs are perfectly fine as long as they aren't playing a darling which is why we have all these heartbreaking loses.

I don't think they are out to get the Chiefs, I think they are out to push certain teams and the Chiefs are not and have never been one of those teams. Numerous other teams get jobbed in those games also, Jacksonville got jobbed yesterday, the Broncos overcame a job attempt.

The NFL doesn't even care if you know it because everyone keeps watching and there will always be people that defend refs or tell you you are a loser for bringing it up...this thread for example.

I think that's all crazy talk. NFL didn't care about LA for how many years and now all of a sudden they're the new darling? C'mon.

You really think the NFL looks at KC and this offense and thinks ... "Meh, let's just keep them toiling in misery."

[Gravedigger]

I could see it either way in all honesty. There's evidence to support both sides.

[dlphg9]

So it was a penalty because Tyreek Hill was too close to the defender, but it's not a penalty to run up to Patrick Mahomes after he was ran over and pull the guy who ran him over off, then proceed to run your mouth for 10 seconds as 2 Chiefs players attempt to pull you off the top of him. This is all while an official is standing 3 ft away. The official had to get in the middle of the group of players though. So why was what Marcus Peters was doing not called a penalty? Someone please explain. Also in your explanation do not say that the ref didn't see it. I want a legit reason. TIA.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by Chief_N_Bama

It was “different” only in that the defender was closer than they usually are to Reek, but he turns and tosses the at the defender if they are still in pursuit. And in the context of the game it was especially questionable, especially when they (the refs) refrained from throwing similar flags against the Rams when they could have. The Suh hit comes immediately to mind. In this day and age of protecting the QB, the no call on the play is still mind boggling.

Here's a comparison... Denver players still do the mile high salute and that's typically, in the EZ and facing the stands. The first time one of those players stops, turns and does that in the face of another player... flag. Bank on it, esp if a ref is there.

[BlackOp]

NFL officials have to sign a confidentiality agreement and are subject to gag orders if they talk publicly about their jobs.

In my experience, confidentiality agreements only exist to serve as a firewall to protect sensitive internal information and financial damage.

What could be so sensitive about fairly officiating a NFL game? It seems like a pretty extreme measure to take...unless there is obviously something they deem that would be financially "damaging" if it were public knowledge.

The writing in on the wall...if you choose to ignore it, it's your choice.

Also, by creating the stupid "all-star" crew...the NFL is inadvertently admitting that some refs aren't as good as others? It was a deliberate move to sway the game...then have a contingency to apologize and say they made a mistake and will stick with the original crews. It had a built in alibi from the conception...and nobody from that crew will be held accountable.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

I think that's all crazy talk. NFL didn't care about LA for how many years and now all of a sudden they're the new darling? C'mon.

You really think the NFL looks at KC and this offense and thinks ... "Meh, let's just keep them toiling in misery."

KC isn't in the midst of building a 5 billion dollar stadium or do they have the market size to support 20+ million in ad revenue..

This is a money making business.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

I think that's all crazy talk. NFL didn't care about LA for how many years and now all of a sudden they're the new darling? C'mon.

You really think the NFL looks at KC and this offense and thinks ... "Meh, let's just keep them toiling in misery."

Umm yeah? Why would they not put extreme emphasis on making sure the LA teams are competitive? They know that no one is going to go to a game if the teams aren't competitive. Hell even with 1 very good team and 1 average team not many people show up.

Quit playing stupid and quit trolling.

[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by Nzoner

It's a helluva read,oh and just so you know going in there's only one team in the NFL with a chapter all to themselves.

The title of that chapter is called The Kansas City Shuffle

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

So it was a penalty because Tyreek Hill was too close to the defender, but it's not a penalty to run up to Patrick Mahomes after he was ran over and pull the guy who ran him over off, then proceed to run your mouth for 10 seconds as 2 Chiefs players attempt to pull you off the top of him. This is all while an official is standing 3 ft away. The official had to get in the middle of the group of players though. So why was what Marcus Peters was doing not called a penalty? Someone please explain. Also in your explanation do not say that the ref didn't see it. I want a legit reason. TIA.

The teams had different rules for the game, it's not hard to understand. The NFL is the parent and the teams are the children, the children have different rules.

[dlphg9]

Some of you are in such denial it's ridiculous. I mean look at some wrestling fans that think it's real and they openely tell you it's scripted. You guys just don't want to believe your favorite sport is rigged in some way. Then some of you guys are such manly men that you can't place blame on refs because that makes you a loser.

I'll say it again

OPEN YOUR EYES